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You're not wrong, but your statement needs some added perspective.
Nissan Leaf warranty covers battery loss over 37.5% in the first 5 years. It is not super rare but far from common. So with that as a benchmark, 7.5% depletion per year can be considered unusually high and therefore covered by warranty. So at the end of a three-year lease you should have more than 78% capacity still. At the end of our 35-month lease, 3 years ago, we had approximately 75% capacity on our first Leaf. On our current 2012 Leaf we have approximately 75% capacity. We take better care of this one lol.
Basic guidelines: don't fast charge when it's not necessary, don't fast charge beyond 80%, and as much as possible, keep the battery between 20% and 80% charged.
Oh and also of note, the old battery (pre-2018) I believe can be replaced with a brand new one for ~$6k. So there is an actual price attached to it.
It seems Nissan has improved its warranty coverage as a result of heightened concerns over the new Leaf battery's degradation. The new warranty is covers the same loss amount (~37.5%) over 8 years and 100k miles. So essentially they expect you to lose less than 4.7% capacity each year. After three years it should not be a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by Bayarea4
That is very interesting about the batteries and how warranties work, thanks, wheelsup and projectmaximus! I knew that hot weather reduces battery life from reading posts from Leaf users on EV forums. But I never considered that a used EV could have come from someplace like Phoenix.
What I'm hoping to do is to either buy or lease a 2018 later in the year when the prices come down or look for a low-mileage 2017 model to buy. So far there don't seem to be many 2017s for sale, which I'm hoping means it is a good car that people are happy with and don't want to trade in.
I too hope to get a new EV in several years when the current crop begins popping up used. And we should know which ones perform best by then.
I'm out of reps right now, but thanks for your comments, projectmaximus. I think the advantages of an electric car far outweigh the possible hassle of having to replace the battery down the line, so I'm willing to take that risk.
I was going by the dimensions listed on the Golf website, but that was in 2016 so maybe there's more headroom and legroom now. One other consideration is that my husband is nearly 78, about 50 lbs. overweight and has bad knees and an achy back. It is hard for him to get in and out of a car that is as low-slung as the Golf, and I'm not even sure he'd be comfortable in a Leaf. One reason we bought a Crosstrek was that it has a raised chassis. I liked the Golf a lot and might have bought one if I were single.
Have you looked at the BMW I3? It is taller and has very easy ingress and egress as well. There is also a range extender version.
Have you looked at the BMW I3? It is taller and has very easy ingress and egress as well. There is also a range extender version.
Yes, I took a look. The new ones are about $40K. I'm not sure what the price range is for used, but I will check.
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