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Accord 4 cylinder engines use timing chains. Accord no longer has a 6 cylinder option.
I'm not sure if Honda's 1.5L I4 turbocharged uses timing-chain or timing-belt, but I think it's chain. If it's belt, it's probably the longer-lifespan version better than 20 years ago.
Ive been a honda man most of my life and i can honestly tell that, Honda is going in the opposite direction.
From Blown Transmission in the early 2000, to blown engines and bad brakes since 2008, I'm not going to even start on Toyota.
The Ford Fusion has its faults but no where near the problems that Toyota and Honda have.
I think the only reason why Toyota and Honda buyer don't complain as much is because of they are ashamed.
Ive been a honda man most of my life and i can honestly tell that, Honda is going in the opposite direction.
From Blown Transmission in the early 2000, to blown engines and bad brakes since 2008, I'm not going to even start on Toyota.
The Ford Fusion has its faults but no where near the problems that Toyota and Honda have.
I think the only reason why Toyota and Honda buyer don't complain as much is because of they are ashamed.
And Honda outsources their 9-speed auto transmission to ZF Friedrichshafen, same transmission found in troublesome Jeep Cherokee. Reliability isn't Honda's top-priority anymore. People still buy them because they are brainwashed by media thinking Japanese are still the best. Yeah right... Not just Honda alone, but according to JD Power initial quality, all Japanese brands are going DOWNHILL fast, actually.
You'll be surprised where Ford and Chevrolet are rated now. It wasn't like this before during mid-1990s. And, again, you have nothing to lose with a new 2019 Ford Escape S or 2019 Ford Fusion S.
Many mechanics I know including myself rarely saw Toyota’s in the shop besides for maintenance. I personally see way more older Toyota’s on the road compared to Honda’s, especially from the 90’s that are still going strong.
It wasn’t until the mid 2000’s Toyota’s quality started to slip where more hard plastic and loosely fitted trim made its way into their cars. All the recalls during that era was a disaster.
GM and Fords quality is substantial better today than it was even as little as 5 years ago.
Where their problem lies however and where the Japanese and Germans have them beat in advanced technology, and sophisticated styling and details in the luxury lineup.
Sit in a new Lexus LS500, that thing blows away almost any current luxury ride besides for an S-Class and destroys any Cadillac and Lincoln in terms of fit and finish, interior styling and quality of materials.
But other than that, Chevies and Ford sedans are well done.
Ive been a honda man most of my life and i can honestly tell that, Honda is going in the opposite direction.
From Blown Transmission in the early 2000, to blown engines and bad brakes since 2008, I'm not going to even start on Toyota.
The Ford Fusion has its faults but no where near the problems that Toyota and Honda have.
I think the only reason why Toyota and Honda buyer don't complain as much is because of they are ashamed.
2015 Accord Hybrid - Zero problems through 42K miles.
So perhaps you got a Lemon but Honda quality is not slipping as far as I can tell.
As to the old C vs A battle my personal opinion is that while the Honda is dynamically superior to the new Camry the redesign is butt ugly. I actually like the looks of the Camry SE better and with the V6 available it seems Toyota has at least scored a triple, although the Honda turbo 4 is just as fast as the old V6.
And Honda outsources their 9-speed auto transmission to ZF Friedrichshafen, same transmission found in troublesome Jeep Cherokee. Reliability isn't Honda's top-priority anymore. People still buy them because they are brainwashed by media thinking Japanese are still the best. Yeah right... Not just Honda alone, but according to JD Power initial quality, all Japanese brands are going DOWNHILL fast, actually.
You'll be surprised where Ford and Chevrolet are rated now. It wasn't like this before during mid-1990s. And, again, you have nothing to lose with a new 2019 Ford Escape S or 2019 Ford Fusion S.
Who has been the top rated brand on JD Power's initial quality list for two years running? Kia. #1 in 2016 and 2017, #2 to sister brand Genesis in 2018. Ahead of everyone mentioned so far. But no mention of the Optima in this thread.
I have a question. In every one of these CamCord posts no one ever mentions the Nissan Maxima as a contender for the same market. Why? Is it no longer in the CamCord market so to speak?
Another car we've gotten as a rental in the past two years. For all that we felt like the Camry was underpowered, it was otherwise a far better ride than the Maxima, which seemed to want to float off the road on its own.
The recent rental list be preference:
1. C Class Mercedes (UK version)
2. Toyota Avalon (comfy, good power)
3. VW Jetta (cheap interior but fun to drive)
4. Toyota Camry
5. Kia Optima (very rough ride)
6. Nissan Maxima
...but if I had to choose between these two, I would go Camry.
I have thought the recent Accords have been beyond ugly for quite some time...
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