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Old 09-19-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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It will probably be a clone of the fiat pickup in South America.
It will look allot like it’s big brother the new Ram 1500 that 3.6 Pentastar is a nice engine.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Is the Fiat pickup any good? I owned an '89 Dakota, and it was a real disappointment. It got good mileage as a commuter truck but it wouldn't work. If you put 800 lbs. in the bed the frame was sitting on the axles. I'm driving a 2003 Mazda/Ranger, and it's an honest half ton pickup. I hope Fiat does better than Chrysler did.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Is the Fiat pickup any good? I owned an '89 Dakota, and it was a real disappointment. It got good mileage as a commuter truck but it wouldn't work. If you put 800 lbs. in the bed the frame was sitting on the axles. I'm driving a 2003 Mazda/Ranger, and it's an honest half ton pickup. I hope Fiat does better than Chrysler did.
The Ford Ranger/Mazda pickups are 1/4 ton pickups not 1/2 ton pickups the F150 is a 1/2 ton pickup. The S10 and Nissan Frontier and the Toyota Tacoma art all 1/4 ton pickups.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Is the Fiat pickup any good? I owned an '89 Dakota, and it was a real disappointment. It got good mileage as a commuter truck but it wouldn't work. If you put 800 lbs. in the bed the frame was sitting on the axles. I'm driving a 2003 Mazda/Ranger, and it's an honest half ton pickup. I hope Fiat does better than Chrysler did.
Fiat offers two pickups:

Fiat Fullback which is a rebranded Mitisubishi L200 build in the same Thai factory as the L200. It is sold in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa:



Fiat Strada is a FWD trucklet made in Brazil and sold worldwide except for the US and Canada. It's offered as the Ram 700 in Mexico:



This new Dakota will look nothing like either of them as it will be bigger than those.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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FCA knows what Americans will buy in a pickup and those 2 are not it, the Dakota will look a little like the Ram 1500.
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: On the wind
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FCA knows what Americans will buy in a pickup and those 2 are not it, the Dakota will look a little like the Ram 1500.
That could be because most Americans may not know that either of the two exist!
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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That could be because most Americans may not know that either of the two exist!
They want a full size bed like the Colorado the new Dakota is to compete with Chevrolet and the new Ford Ranger those Fiat little pickups look like the old Ford sport trac and look what happened there.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:34 PM
 
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That could be because most Americans may not know that either of the two exist!
There are about 187 "enthusiasts" in North America that would want those but they only buy vehicles in this condition:

used, manual, diesel, with crank windows, and brown in color.
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:44 PM
 
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FCA knows what Americans will buy in a pickup and those 2 are not it, the Dakota will look a little like the Ram 1500.
You can thank the chicken tax as the reason companies don't import small trucks here. After the 25% tariff, the price of a small truck would cost more than a full sized truck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

Many companies tried to get around it, for example the Subaru Brat having the two seats in the bed to have it not classified as a light truck, but those loopholes were quickly closed.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:06 PM
 
Location: On the wind
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A couple of companies are waiting in the wings with models for a younger, urban dweller who wants these types of pickups. Tastes are changing, and they can wait until market forces are right.
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