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Old 10-04-2018, 01:30 AM
 
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I test-drove a couple Toyotas and a Honda, then bought a Subaru. The Civic and the Corolla seemed like okay cars, adequate cars, but nothing special.
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Old 10-04-2018, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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My beef with their data is that they only go back weeks or months, rather than decades. Dashboard-Light generally refuses to put a score on a model year until they have a certain number of years' data. So, not useful for brand new cars, but if every generation of Jeep in the past going back 30 years has had electrical problems, you can probably project that into the future.


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600k is incredible. I have a 2nd generation Insight bought in 2009 so I'm very glad to read this. I've had all the routine maintenance done except spark plugs changed at 100k miles.
That's for a manual transmission, mind you. They last forever. CVTs typically don't make it past 250k even well cared for, and failures before 200k are not uncommon. They've gotten better over the years though.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I’m pretty sure that in both posts I said “near” impossible. That’s an important caveat.

Yes it is, but it's still too much for me. You decide how you want to describe them. My opinion doesn't matter.
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Old 10-04-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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I test-drove a couple Toyotas and a Honda, then bought a Subaru. The Civic and the Corolla seemed like okay cars, adequate cars, but nothing special.
Subarus are on par with Honda and Yota generally speaking. But my problem with Subaru is that they can't build a head gasket that will hold together.

I mean come on... head gaskets have been common as dirt for a *century*. They're not rocket science... even GM can make them last.

Now to be fair, I drive an old GM with the 3100... an engine where the intake gaskets would often fail around or before 100k. But this is a GM... nobody really expects better from them and it cost a fraction of what you'll pay for a Subaru.

Subaru can and should do better.
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Old 10-04-2018, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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Honda and Toyota head gaskets don’t generally have to deal with oil pooling on them from the side.
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Old 10-04-2018, 02:39 PM
 
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Are Honda and Toyota as good as everybody claims?

A friend just sold me a Honda Accord 2005 with 160k miles very cheap
I almost didn't buy it because of the miles on it
When I read about it, everybody claims that this cars can easily make it to 250k-300k miles.

After buying it, I began to notice that it seems like every other person in this country has a Toyota Camry, Corolla, Honda Accord or Civic.

Are this cars as good as people claim or are they overhyped?

Not overhyped.

Currently in a 15 Accord Hybrid. 44K and only the battery has failed.
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Old 10-04-2018, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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In recent years, Subaru engines with oil consumption issues typically aren't following the break-in period in the owners manual. If you hop in the car and drive the first 1000 miles at 70 mph with the cruise control on, it will burn oil.
I thought engine "break in" went out with the the K car.
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Old 10-05-2018, 03:40 PM
 
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My Honda CRV was ridiculously reliable. I bought with 170k on the odometer and sold it with over 250k miles and in that time all I ever changed were the shocks and brake pads (and oil and light bulbs and such). It even had the original clutch. My only gripe out that car was the clunky styling and the annoying road noise (honda really needs to address the road noise issue). I much prefer the styling on my 4Runner.
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Old 10-05-2018, 06:56 PM
 
Location: NYC
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yes
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Old 10-05-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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They are good cars, but the civic is way better than the corolla for 2016- present they just offer more powerful engine choices.
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