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They made a very rare unicorn. V10 TDI diesel, but in reality it had many problems according to sources.
What about that W8 motor? It was very fuel efficient but like all things German expensive to maintain despite it being two VR motors that were mated together.
Volkswagen Phaeton.
A magnificent machine with the wrong badge on it.
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That's the biggest problem VW has and IMO will always have. No one wants to fork over more than $45,000 for one of their cars. Audi may be a great car but it's over priced too.
that's the biggest problem vw has and imo will always have. No one wants to fork over more than $45,000 for one of their cars. Audi may be a great car but it's over priced too.
The Chevy Impala SS and Buick Lucerne Super with the LS4 V8. They look completely unassuming but they have some serious straight-line speed. I'd add the Grand Prix GXP with the same motor but that car actually looks the part.
In your opinion what are the 5 most underrated cars? Here's my list.
1. VW Touareg: I'm still not entirely sure why this car didn't sell well in the states. It was priced decently for a premium suv, had good off-road capability, a great interior and a really good V8. I guess the VW badge hurt its sales. It's a shame this car is no longer available state side.
One of the most problematic VWs ever made. It was plagued with problems and a big money pit to maintain. VW may have a good concept for a premium SUV but nobody wants a problem ridden SUV.
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2. Hyundai Tiburon: I know a Hyundai sports car will never be at the top of people's buy list. Especially one from the 2000's. However I always found this to be a fun inexpensive sports car. I actually thought it was one of the first good cars Hyundai made. It deserves more street cred than it gets.
It was made when sports coupes lost their popularity. People wanted tune-able turbo hatchbacks and the Tibbys never made any decent power or had super handling.
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3. Toyota Venza: It's a shame this vehicle got canned, it sold well in its early years. Toyota hurt it by not giving it a proper remodel. It got bashed by reviewers for some reason. I thought it fit a really good niche for people who want a comfortable vehicle with storage space, but don't want something big like the Highlander. It was also pretty close to being a traditional wagon. I liked the way this vehicle looked and wish Toyota would bring it back.
It was an ugly crossover that tried to bank on the popular crossover segment but failed to realize that crossover was a short-lived concept as people moved on to SUVs.
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4. Suzuki Kizashi: I don't think anyone will actually remember this vehicle. It was essentially Suziki's swan song here in the states. It actually was a really solid mid-size sedan. It's a shame that Suzuki went out the moment they got something right.
You can thank Hyundai for displacing Suzuki and having GM has a steward doesn't help their situation. Suzuki has a number of good vehicles overseas and GM has contributed to their demise here by not bringing many of their popular cars here like the Swift.
The SHO was the best bang for the buck that you could get. It hit all the popular segments, performance, handling, luxury, roomy, it has a large trunk and was a great family hauler.
Wasn’t the engine made by Yamaha or someone similar?
I had that car as a rental once. If it wasn't a short business trip, I may have inquired if a trade was possible. But I was actually quite impressed with it after two days. I do agree that it was likely ahead of its time. Albeit it's hard to get over that ugly front though.
As someone who is biased towards handling. I think wagons in general are underrated in this world of *UVs. I wish there was enough of a market here to continually bring over (or make) wagons. Especially performance ones like the Subaru Lavorg or Audi RS5 Avants .
My dream is for VW to bring over the Golf R Wagon or for Audi to bring over the S4 Avant. But alas, US shoppers don’t want regular wagons. They want wagons with a 3” lift they can call CUVs.
Minivans. Really, almost any minivan. Some are better than others, naturally, but as a category a minivan is about the most practical vehicle you can own if you need the space. People want SUV's, they complain about not wanting to be that minivan driver, but they're letting their ego or their self-image or something take precedence over their common sense. Mine was a Plymouth Grand Voyager, AWD, and it was great. Carried everything and everybody I ever needed to carry, went everywhere, extremely reliable. Everyone who is considering an SUV should look seriously at a minivan.
Pontiac Aztek. The problem was that they were so ugly, but my wife's cousin who worked for the UAW said that all the GM people said if they could just get someone to drive one they would see how great and practical it was. That's even without that Walter White cachet!
Wasn’t the engine made by Yamaha or someone similar?
SHO had the yamaha built engine, along with the volvo vc90(?).
Reaching back into my memory bank, the pontiac bonneville with the 3.8 l supercharged engine was a fast reliable hooptie as well. Handled like a champ!
Wasn’t the engine made by Yamaha or someone similar?
Not that I am aware of.
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