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I actually think the Volt was probably the best looking hybrid made.
Oh please! You coul dnot make a more forgettable car. The word shapeless is more apt. Actually, I don't want my hybrid to look any different, if I ever buy one.
It was a great looking car but no one was buying them if people did support American automakers than we wouldn’t be having this discussion would we. But the USA government just let the Asian automakers flood this country with no tariffs, unlike the quotas they put on the American automakers.
The price they asked was ridiculous.
Supposedly Dan Akerson, who succeeded Ed Whitacre, who replaced the fired Rick Wagoner, decided that the ELR was going to be profitable and stuck an absurd $75K on what was effectively a rebodied Volt with a very nice interior.
The writing was on the wall immediately when they were only able to sell 38 of the 100 special edition Saks 5th Avenue cars that were made available (the only way to get a White Diamond 2014 ELR).
It had no chance from the beginning. 5 years on, low mileage ELRs are worth a third of MSRP.
The good news is that they're easily the cheapest really nice PHEV you can buy.
It was a great looking car but no one was buying them if people did support American automakers than we wouldn’t be having this discussion would we. But the USA government just let the Asian automakers flood this country with no tariffs, unlike the quotas they put on the American automakers.
Despite the warm and fuzzy "Buy American" sentiments many of us have, everything comes down to price (or more accurately value,) pure and simple. Generally, Americans will buy the cheapest item they can get. They say they want to buy American, but their actions do not reflect that. When push comes to shove, they will buy the cheapest thing every time. Sometimes, they pay more up front because they perceive that extra expenditure as saving them money down the road in terms of maintenance costs, etc. . . But that also comes down to price too.
Everyone has a budget and everyone wants their dollar to go as far as possible. That's why American companies offsource much of their labor to India and Jamaica. They want to make more profit, so they pay them $2/hour rather than the $12/hour American employees demand. Companies make more money and customers pay less. Ultimately, America loses employees, but the system won't change unless American items can compete on price with Chinese items and that is not going to happen.
Despite the warm and fuzzy "Buy American" sentiments many of us have, everything comes down to price (or more accurately value,) pure and simple. Generally, Americans will buy the cheapest item they can get. They say they want to buy American, but their actions do not reflect that. When push comes to shove, they will buy the cheapest thing every time. Sometimes, they pay more up front because they perceive that extra expenditure as saving them money down the road in terms of maintenance costs, etc. . . But that also comes down to price too.
Everyone has a budget and everyone wants their dollar to go as far as possible. That's why American companies offsource much of their labor to India and Jamaica. They want to make more profit, so they pay them $2/hour rather than the $12/hour American employees demand. Companies make more money and customers pay less. Ultimately, America loses employees, but the system won't change unless American items can compete on price with Chinese items and that is not going to happen.
Than why are people shocked by GMs decision to close these plants. People not buying their sedans can’t keep people employed can it. So people have no one to blame but themselves for buying foreign sedans rather than American and keeping Americans employed.
Than why are people shocked by GMs decision to close these plants. People not buying their sedans can’t keep people employed can it. So people have no one to blame but themselves for buying foreign sedans rather than American and keeping Americans employed.
Didn't you say your wife drives a Hyundai, or Nissan or something like that?
Than why are people shocked by GMs decision to close these plants. People not buying their sedans can’t keep people employed can it. So people have no one to blame but themselves for buying foreign sedans rather than American and keeping Americans employed.
I don't think the majority of people, especially those that understand the industry are shocked about plant closures of poor selling vehicles. It happens all the time , maybe not to this extent though.
It is the plant closures coupled with the entire restructuring of the company for the perception of a high demand market for something. EV and Autonomous.
The headcount reduction of 14,000 salaried workers, and laying off 100% of contract staff , so far in MX, but soon to follow here in the US.
All while Mary Barra discloses they will be weaning off of ICE development, supposedly releasing 20 new EV models by 2025, and an Autonomous vehicle by 2019, and trying to change the look of the company to a high tech transportation company, all stated this past year.
Also the past few years, purchasing an E Bike company, starting Maven, a ride share company, purchasing Cruise Automation, a autonomous tech company and letting Honda buy themselves in on a future autonomous vehicle.
That is why many of us are shocked.
#ZERO EMISSIONS
#ZERO CRASHES
#ZERO CONGESTION
another statement by Mary Barra
Didn't you say your wife drives a Hyundai, or Nissan or something like that?
My x wife my father retired from GM in the early 90’s after working for them for 30 years as a skilled tradesmen. So i grew up buying American Ana a UAW supporter. I worked for Chrysler at warren truck assembly we made the dodge power wagon Ramcharger and regular pickups.
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