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Old 11-26-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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The Cruze is dead because small cars are not profitable.

The Volt will transition to an CUV like vehicle.

The CT6 Hybrid, not the entire line, is dead in North America - it will continue to be sold in China where it's made.

The Lacrosse, XTS, and Impala are all based on the same platform and will all die at the same time.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...sing-next-year

Bloomberg News is reporting these changes are being made due to the switch to electric vehicles.
Less staff is needed to design electric vs fuel powered vehicles.
Everyone wants CUVs now, so sedans bite the dust.

The future is coming really fast.
This is exactly it. Although the future is being forced on us, and we are decades away from a total transition. Gas is cheap, SUV and Truck sales are high, and that tells you what the consumer wants. Not EV and Autonomous, although that is the direction we are being forced into.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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If Things keep up this way, this country will completely falter. Businesses, corporations closing one after the other, doesn't anyone see the US is in a true mess. Personally I think this country, suffers from mental depression. It seems many from Politicians on down. Don't seem to really focus on much, or care about much of anything.
I'm not surprised at all concerning this GM announcement. I'm surprised it took this long. Ford is ending production on many of its vehicles. So many jobs to be lost.Very sad.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Perhaps they would be in a better position if they made better products and didn’t blame their own customers for GM’s engineering mistakes.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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Perhaps they would be in a better position if they made better products and didn’t blame their own customers for GM’s engineering mistakes.
It’s not that simple. People just don’t like sedans anymore. Everybody is chopping them.
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Old 11-26-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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It’s not that simple. People just don’t like sedans anymore. Everybody is chopping them.
I still like 'em.
I'm hoping that the mass flight from sedans makes the one I want cheap for me to buy.
I do have a history of taking advantage of market trends... bought a Chevy Tahoe when gas was very high and a diesel after VW pooped the bed.
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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If Things keep up this way, this country will completely falter. Businesses, corporations closing one after the other, doesn't anyone see the US is in a true mess. Personally I think this country, suffers from mental depression. It seems many from Politicians on down. Don't seem to really focus on much, or care about much of anything.
I'm not surprised at all concerning this GM announcement. I'm surprised it took this long. Ford is ending production on many of its vehicles. So many jobs to be lost.Very sad.
Too pessimistic.

All of us let manufacturing go to cheap Communist Socialist China. We all want cheap Walmart China crap.


People don't ask for USA made products. They want cheap virtual slave labor China Vietnam stuff.


Oh, NAFTA had some to do with some manufacturing going to Mexico.


We have ourselves to blame.


And manufacturing is NOT coming back no matter what any politician claims. That's the real fake news.


Example: try to find any brake rotors made in USA. For ordinary vehicles - not exotics.
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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All of us let manufacturing go to cheap Communist Socialist China. We all want cheap Walmart China crap.
People don't ask for USA made products. They want cheap virtual slave labor China Vietnam stuff.
Or cheap made anywhere stuff. If China gets too expensive, it'll just move.
You'll know the race to the bottom has ended when "Made In Somalia" becomes a thing.
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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Or cheap made anywhere stuff. If China gets too expensive, it'll just move.
You'll know the race to the bottom has ended when "Made In Somalia" becomes a thing.
None of this is because of cheap Chinese made parts, greedy corporations, lazy politicians, or anything else. It's because nobody wants sedans anymore. There's really not much more to read into it.
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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You mean the Bolt who’s sales just tanked 41%? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...1-percent.html
Or the Volt who’s best ever sales topped out at 2100 a month? (Compared to Silverado at 52000 sales per month.)
How much margin do you think the Volt yielded?

I was really pulling for the Volt, but man, it is what it is. And it’s a $20k economy car at best.
How many ads for the Volt did you see? How many ads for the Silverado do you see? Daily? Maybe letting people know it existed and what it was would have helped. I STILL get asked about mine and what it is.

It's a $20k economy car WITH an additional electric drivetrain. And it seems to be built better than a $20k economy car, from what I can see after living with mine.

The Bolt is getting killed by the Model 3, which is selling at a huge clip. The Bolt is built better, but it's a dorky little semi-CUV that few know about, while everybody knows about the Teslas due to word of mouth and huge amounts of press they receive. GM is positioning themselves t get in on that market, either as a Tesla Model 3 competitor, or take over when the cars are at the end of their lifecycle and no one wants a second Tesla (could happen) but still wants a reasonably priced EV that fits them.
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