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Old 12-04-2018, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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There's a dealer here in NC that still has some 'brand new' 2015 model Buick's left.

https://www.randymarionchevrolet.net...nc-id-20569702
https://www.randymarionchevy.net/Veh...-NC/3079649633
King Of Price... sure, buddy.
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Old 12-04-2018, 10:42 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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No, the OP does not "mean well" with this thread. He is on a crazy, freaking, anti-Asian rant. It's not about cars. It's about his hatred of Japan and Korea. Anyone who started reading this thread before his post got "sanitized" knows that.
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:38 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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One also has to account for Uber. Plenty of folks have ditched cars for Uber now or other similar apps.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:27 AM
 
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"Ford EcoBoost Turbo Replacement Cost? About $2250"

Just another component that can break. In addition to all of the normal parts that can break. Never mind the extra stress on that aluminum alloy engine.

God help those who can't afford a new car every 3 years. You know - the "poor" people. The used car folks.
Not sure of the point you are trying to make, other than your dislike of turbocharging, which is fine and your choice.
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Old 12-05-2018, 04:33 AM
 
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So what's better, a foreign branded car made in the US or an imported GM?
Being in the auto industry, i generally buy who is making my paychecks. The only exception to that was the two Asian OEM's i worked for. I just could not get myself to do it, most likely because of my dislike for the managment of the companies and their distain for American workers.
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:04 AM
 
Location: USA
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Currently, my garage would allude to your post 100%. I have:

- 2008 Ford Taurus X at 135,000 miles- runs beautifully, only issue has been an oil leak (purchased at 48,000).
- 2008 Ford Expedition EL at 200,000 miles- runs great, no issues since purchased at 191,000.
- 2010 Ford Fusion at 176,000 miles- awesome car, no major issues whatsoever in my entire time owning it

I have no plans to replace any of these vehicles soon (hope this post doesn't make me eat my words later LOL) and have them for the long haul! I greatly appreciate the longevity because there's no way I'd be able to afford a new or slightly used one at this point!
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:10 AM
 
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The CEO of GM, Mary Barra, was paid $22 million last year (not counting any stock options), the highest of the 3 Detroit-based auto makers.

She has been around GM for years, but in technocrat roles, not real automotive design & development roles. She was VP of human resources, and managed a plant. She pushed GM to release the Bolt, a pure EV that has sold a few thousand and gets good reviews, but is not going to save GM.

To my mind, she is a diversity hire, not someone who has really earned the role: she's touted as "the first woman to run a car company", yippee!

What GM needs is another Lee Iacocca, a dynamic leader who can rally the troops, cajole the unions to fall in line, and get some innovative products out. What they don't need is "former chairman of Boeing, knows how to lead a large org." or "the car industry's first fill-in-the-blank diversity-hire" or "has worked for GM all his life and loves cars and knows how to talk to Congress" (that's at least somewhat qualified).

No, they need Super-Man, a genius, ruthless yet charismatic, an Elon Musk type of driven visionary (sans the personal issues). An automotive Steve Jobs. That's what $22 million ought to buy you.

They have the plants, the personnel, and the market. Now what they need is a reason to exist, some goals to achieve. I don't get GM -- why must they be so lackluster?
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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She pushed GM to release the Bolt, a pure EV that has sold a few thousand and gets good reviews, but is not going to save GM.
GM has sold a lot of EVs, enough that they're about to lose their credits.
IMO, these are really long term "test" vehicles that gather extensive real world data. They don't make money.
It's good to have experience if you plan to be part of the coming wave.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Being in the auto industry, i generally buy who is making my paychecks. The only exception to that was the two Asian OEM's i worked for. I just could not get myself to do it, most likely because of my dislike for the managment of the companies and their distain for American workers.
In my state, that would be Hyundai-Mobis, Honda, and Mercedes. Very soon will also be Toyota and Mazda.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: MN
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Being in the auto industry, i generally buy who is making my paychecks. The only exception to that was the two Asian OEM's i worked for. I just could not get myself to do it, most likely because of my dislike for the managment of the companies and their distain for American workers.
You pay yourself
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