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Old 12-11-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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A lot of people will quit driving those oversize vehicles, when they quit making clown cars, and again build cars that average people can sit up in, not being a contortionist which can't do any more to get into one.

I can see the issue with the smaller vehicles but most mid sized sedans should be adequate for larger person if your only needs are to get from point A to point B. I have a Lacrosse and fail to see how anyone of large size would complain even if they were in the back seat. With the fold down seats I can even fit a 10 foot 2*4 in it.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: NH
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My truck is paid off and I get about 14-15 mpg around town, 17 tops on the highway. It doesn't make sense to trade it in on something more fuel efficient because then I would also have a car payment to deal with. Its cheaper just to keep it.
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Old 12-11-2018, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I drove a midsize SUV and decided to go with a Camry when it got totaled. It did seem kind of ridiculous driving by myself in a SUV all the time. What I really need is a truly small pickup like my 96 Tacoma was. It seems like a market is being missed but I guess truly small pickup sales would undermine big truck sales.

I did appreciate the big SUV when it got totaled by a nut in a stolen truck with me in the SUV. Came out with just a separated shoulder.
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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The USA is now the largest producer of oil in the world. We out produce Saudi Arabia. Add that to what is produced by OPEC and others and you have a temporary oil glut.


Here's the good news:
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:31 PM
 
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The USA is now the largest producer of oil in the world. We out produce Saudi Arabia. Add that to what is produced by OPEC and others and you have a temporary oil glut.


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lol, predictions...
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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What? I can buy diesel 2008 Ford F-250 or F-350 4x4s with normal miles all day here in Seattle for $12-15k. Let me know where you live. Sounds like an untapped used truck market.
SE US. NC, specifically.

If you have a 4x4, upper trim level (leather), diesel truck, it will almost never see below 40-50% of its purchase price unless it's totaled.

Beware, if you have a 2WD diesel, it will be much harder to sell. Local dealer can't sell a "brand new" 2017 Ram 3500 because it's a base model and 2WD.
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:19 PM
 
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Do you live in NJ? How would you know what I know in my own area?
The soccer moms in their SUVs arent hauling trash to the dump like you are. Trash haulers are not what Im talking about.
Those soccer moms are driving SUVs, because they need to haul a bunch of kids and their equipment, and that is impossible to do with those tiny cars they make today. And when the bad weather hits, they feel a heck of a lot safer driving them, and can go when it is not safe for a regular car to be on the road. They also drive them for pure safety reasons to protect their families. The Government agencies that watch over safety, recently said those small cars are 4 times more apt to have serious injury and death in an accident than Medium Size and Larger SUVs and Pickups in a newspaper article I recently saw.

The people both rural and in cities, are flocking away from those tiny cars, and moving to SUVs and 4 door pickups, as those tiny cars no longer fill their transportation needs.

Because of the movement away from cars, Ford and GM are going to quit making cars that people no longer want, and are going to quit wasting billions of dollars developing the next generation of cars, that they will not recover the development dollars, let alone make a profit.
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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I drove a six cylinder Cherokee.

On the highway, I can usually get 27/28 a gallon. To me, that's acceptable. The 4WD is very useful in the snow. We just had a record breaking snowstorm. The Cherokee got right up the driveway, where my Elantra couldn't get up the driveway at all in half as much snow last year.

I use the cargo space all the time. I would never have another vehicle without a lift gate. A trunk sucks.
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:54 PM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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SE US. NC, specifically.

If you have a 4x4, upper trim level (leather), diesel truck, it will almost never see below 40-50% of its purchase price unless it's totaled.

Beware, if you have a 2WD diesel, it will be much harder to sell. Local dealer can't sell a "brand new" 2017 Ram 3500 because it's a base model and 2WD.
Most of the ones I see up here for $12-15k are crew cab Lariats, 4x4 diesels. There are a lot for sale.
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Old 12-11-2018, 09:25 PM
 
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Assuming you are stuck in the snow and out of gas the smaller vehicle would be preferable simply because it will retain more heat.
Blankets in the vehicle... Your "point" is invalid. And stupid.
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