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Old 12-30-2018, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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New small cars are safer than they've ever been, but new larger, heavier vehicles are still safer than small ones. It's a matter of physics: Bigger and heavier is safer than smaller and lighter. Large vehicles weigh more and have longer hoods and bigger crush zones, which gives them an advantage in frontal crashes.
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Old 12-30-2018, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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And that's fine. I have a pickup too, which mostly sits unused. But unlike many, I'm not living paycheck to paycheck - I pay cash for my vehicles. A quick Google search suggests roughly 2/3 of Americans have less than $1000 to their name, while something like 3/4 of new vehicles are trucks and SUVs.
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Old 12-31-2018, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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New small cars are safer than they've ever been, but new larger, heavier vehicles are still safer than small ones. It's a matter of physics: Bigger and heavier is safer than smaller and lighter. Large vehicles weigh more and have longer hoods and bigger crush zones, which gives them an advantage in frontal crashes.
SUVs and trucks are far more likely to flip over in a crash making them more dangerous than cars. Possibility of a rollover is very serious.
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Old 12-31-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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SUVs and trucks are far more likely to flip over in a crash making them more dangerous than cars. Possibility of a rollover is very serious.
Not any more, on newer ones they now have roll stability control.





https://www.autobytel.com/car-owners...ol-rsc-104185/
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Old 12-31-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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Never understood why people care so much about what another person drives. If you like cars, drive a car. You like trucks, drive a truck. People trying to convince others what to drive seems to be a big waste of time.
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Old 12-31-2018, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Not any more, on newer ones they now have roll stability control.





https://www.autobytel.com/car-owners...ol-rsc-104185/
What percent of vehicles have this? Even with this, you cannot change physics. Lower center of gravity will not flip as easily as a vehicle with a higher center of gravity.
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Old 12-31-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Never understood why people care so much about what another person drives. If you like cars, drive a car. You like trucks, drive a truck. People trying to convince others what to drive seems to be a big waste of time.
Yep certain people have to stick their nose in everyone’s business they are like Gladys Kravitz of bewitched.
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Old 12-31-2018, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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Never understood why people care so much about what another person drives. If you like cars, drive a car. You like trucks, drive a truck. People trying to convince others what to drive seems to be a big waste of time.
Think a lot of people are just curious what compells another person to drive something so vastly different from what they drive. There's no harm in curiosity or asking with tact. Telling people what to drive is a different matter, however pointing out facts on the cons of driving a different type of vehicle can be a good discussion.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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SUVs and trucks are far more likely to flip over in a crash making them more dangerous than cars. Possibility of a rollover is very serious.

If you look at the facts, less than .0001% of all vehicles roll over, so worrying about that is a waste of time. Hell, TWICE as many cars roll over as SUVs every year, according the NHTSA and IIHS (though the RATE is lower, the total number is higher). And it's STILL an extremely tiny amount. There are 200 million drivers in the US. That's your baseline for percentages. 8000 people died in the last year of reporting in rollover accidents. That's .00004%. It's really easy to be in the 99.99996% that aren't in those kinds of crashes. So no, the "possibility of a rollover" is not very serious at all.

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The #1 reason for a car or truck/SUV to flip is going sideways into a curb or ditch. Don't do that and you'll be fine. NO vehicles, SUVs included, just roll over on their own from going around a corner or even sliding a bit. My Suburban has 179k miles on it and it hasn't flipped over yet. If they were so prone to it wouldn't you think it would have by now? No, I'm tired of the fear mongering by people like you who have no idea of what they are talking about.

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Old 12-31-2018, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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If you look at the facts, less than .0001% of all vehicles roll over, so worrying about that is a waste of time. Hell, TWICE as many cars roll over as SUVs every year, according the NHTSA and IIHS (though the RATE is lower, the total number is higher). And it's STILL an extremely tiny amount. There are 200 million drivers in the US. That's your baseline for percentages. 8000 people died in the last year of reporting in rollover accidents. That's .00004%. It's really easy to be in the 99.99996% that aren't in those kinds of crashes. So no, the "possibility of a rollover" is not very serious at all.



The #1 reason for a car or truck/SUV to flip is going sideways into a curb or ditch. Don't do that and you'll be fine. NO vehicles, SUVs included, just roll over on their own from going around a corner or even sliding a bit. My Suburban has 179k miles on it and it hasn't flipped over yet. If they were so prone to it wouldn't you think it would have by now? No, I'm tired of the fear mongering by people like you who have no idea of what they are talking about.
So in essence you proved that they are more likely to flip than cars. Thank you for supporting my comment.

Here's reading info for you to support both my view and apparently yours too on how likely SUVs are to tip over. It's basic physics really.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/autowis...-tip-over/amp/

And your car's cousin, the Yukon is included in that link!
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