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I don't think there's anyone who argues the ascendancy of trucky-cars over car-cars. The automotive industry has always been high on fads and whims.
But cutting all such models because they only sell a few million instances a year and imagining that absolutely everyone wants a trucky-car now is going to precipitate absolute disaster in a couple of years, when US makers have absolutely no stylish car-cars to feed that shift of the whims and can't give their trucky-cars away. Holy 1975, Batman...
People aren't buying sedans, but dealers also aren't advertising them and are even pushing people away from them. As an example not long ago I went to a Toyota dealer to sit in the new Prius (out of curiosity) and not only did they claim to not know anything about it, but they were annoyingly persistent about their idea that I really wouldn't like a Prius anyway and would be much happier in a RAV4.
I don't think there's anyone who argues the ascendancy of trucky-cars over car-cars. The automotive industry has always been high on fads and whims.
But cutting all such models because they only sell a few million instances a year and imagining that absolutely everyone wants a trucky-car now is going to precipitate absolute disaster in a couple of years, when US makers have absolutely no stylish car-cars to feed that shift of the whims and can't give their trucky-cars away. Holy 1975, Batman...
They can’t afford to keep a assembly plant open to make a vehicle that’s not selling enough to pay the wages, and taxes, and utilities. If needed they can convert a plant to make a sedan in a short amount of time. Right now they have to many plants and not enough sedans selling to maintain them.
Most car-cars, especially sedans, have lower margins than upstyled trucky-cars and hybrids and truck-trucks. No surprise you got steered to something that would make the salesman more than $200 for his time.
Most car-cars, especially sedans, have lower margins than upstyled trucky-cars and hybrids and truck-trucks. No surprise you got steered to something that would make the salesman more than $200 for his time.
Just tell that to the millions of others who bought a pickup or suv or cuv they want what they want this is America we’re we can drive what we want and now the American people have spoken by buying SUVs and pickups and CUV’s and the American automakers have responded. They have been around a long time so they know the automotive business better than any of us on here.
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People aren't buying sedans, but dealers also aren't advertising them and are even pushing people away from them. As an example not long ago I went to a Toyota dealer to sit in the new Prius (out of curiosity) and not only did they claim to not know anything about it, but they were annoyingly persistent about their idea that I really wouldn't like a Prius anyway and would be much happier in a RAV4.
They've done that to me as well. Although their cars are great, many Toyota dealers are terrible.
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Just tell that to the millions of others who bought a pickup or suv or cuv they want what they want this is America we’re we can drive what we want and now the American people have spoken by buying SUVs and pickups and CUV’s and the American automakers have responded. They have been around a long time so they know the automotive business better than any of us on here.
We'll see. They weren't exactly geniuses just a decade ago. But I don't care. I have zero inclination to buy anything they sell.
We'll see. They weren't exactly geniuses just a decade ago. But I don't care. I have zero inclination to buy anything they sell.
I agree.
The Japanese and Germans will sell all the sedans they want.
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