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Old 01-22-2019, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Germany
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There is a heated debate in Europe to replace normal cars by battery cars. Some minor countries want to ban combustion engines within the next decades, do you think battery cars will ever replace normal cars on a large scale in the US and the American continent in general?


I'm very sceptical about battery cars.
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Old 01-22-2019, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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There is a heated debate in Europe to replace normal cars by battery cars. Some minor countries want to ban combustion engines within the next decades, do you think battery cars will ever replace normal cars on a large scale in the US and the American continent in general?

I'm very sceptical about battery cars.
Yes, but it's going to take awhile.

I look at 'em like weed eaters.
They used to be gas or electric with cords, now the non-commercial trimmers are all cordless electric.
They're just a whole hell of a lot easier to deal with... there's minimal maintenance, just push a button and they go.

Eventually they'll be paired with fuel cells so people can charge at home or quickly fuel on trips.
Once this happens, there will no longer be any need for public charging or superchargers.

GM was prescient with the Volt and the Range Extended EV. The method of range extension is what will be different.

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Old 01-22-2019, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I see it brands like Tesla more of a fad/niche car much like the early 00's H2/H3 Hummers were but with the present cheap glut of gas and with CNG and LPG being an easy swap for "green" vehicles with ICE.

the next step could be Liquid Hydrogen like the Honda Clarity uses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwFIZ9HJY7k
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Yes, but it's going to take awhile.

I look at 'em like weed eaters.
They used to be gas or electric with cords, now the non-commercial trimmers are all cordless electric.
They're just a whole hell of a lot easier to deal with... there's minimal maintenance, just push a button and they go.

Eventually they'll be paired with fuel cells so people can charge at home or quickly fuel on trips.
Once this happens, there will no longer be any need for public charging or superchargers.

GM was prescient with the Volt and the Range Extended EV. The method of range extension is what will be different.
Well, I own a battery powered weed eater (along with blower, chainsaw, and hedge trimmer), and while I do like them, I have noticed the battery life getting shorter and shorter over the past year. These are lithium batteries, and they stay inside the house where they are always kept 70-75 degrees.

I can easily see a new car being sold with a 300 miles range, being depleted down under 250 at 5 years old. Every time a battery gets ran down and recharged it shortens it’s life.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:46 AM
 
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The only draw back i see to electric cars is places to plug it in. Having just bought a new gas powered ,car we thought about an electric but where would we plug it in and charge it up?when more charging stations are installed electric vehicles will become more abundant.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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No, there is no reason to replace something that works just fine, is efficient, and already has the infrastructure in place.
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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No, there is no reason to replace something that works just fine, is efficient, and already has the infrastructure in place.
So you think all this EV stuff is just a fad?
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Old 01-22-2019, 07:11 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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This shouldn't even be a question anymore.
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Old 01-22-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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No, there is no reason to replace something that works just fine, is efficient, and already has the infrastructure in place.

Except they are not efficient. An electric vehicle is 3 times more energy efficient than an ICE powered one.
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Old 01-22-2019, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Well, I own a battery powered weed eater (along with blower, chainsaw, and hedge trimmer), and while I do like them, I have noticed the battery life getting shorter and shorter over the past year. These are lithium batteries, and they stay inside the house where they are always kept 70-75 degrees.

I can easily see a new car being sold with a 300 miles range, being depleted down under 250 at 5 years old. Every time a battery gets ran down and recharged it shortens it’s life.
A weed eater is a lot less sophisticated than an EV when it comes to battery conditioning and power management.
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