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Old 02-12-2019, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Here you can pretty much always negotiate the ticket to a higher fee non-moving violation and get no points, which is more important than the fee. typically they change the charge to double parking which is $450 instead of $250, but you get no points. For us, points will cost us thousands in the next several years on increased insurance rates.
Yes auto insurance is a joke here it’s a lawyers piggy bank.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:57 AM
 
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I used to live in South Ga for a while and if you’ve ever been thoughthst area traveling down I-75 the cops are dirty as they come.
I was warned about this prior to driving through, by a trucker.
Boy was he right, just south of Macon they were lined up all the way to the border.
Also just got my first speeding tic in over a decade. I punched the gas to dry the car after spraying the salt off, didn't want doors and windows to freeze.
Car was still wet on a sunny day, cop didn't care.
$270 to get supervision in this state for doing 22 over.
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I was doing 71 in a 45 passing someone going up hill who thought it would be funny to hit the gas while I passed them.

Haha, good thing they didn't get you both for drag racing ! It's always nuts when you are following someone who is going slow, and as you pass, they speed up as soon as you get next to them. Happens to me all the time, and I have to kick it to get around them.
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:26 PM
 
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Not sure about where you live but the local cops in my area will "suggest" they might work something out in court. They get paid overtime....

A friend received a speeding ticket from a local cop who highly recommended my friend go to court because the judges in that jurisdiction were very lenient.
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Old 02-12-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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An officer said...and it holds true. Every driver is violating some code I can pull them over for. And by golly it's true.
Seat belt? Not signalling. Passing improperly. Light out?
Stickers covering window. U turn. Not coming to a full stop. Parking to close to an emergency zone. Ohh the list is amazing. I'm 100% convinced I've gone above the speed limit..somewhere in the past week. I don't gloat about it simply because Mr officer had bigger fish to fry. I do know that in less then one month..no one is innocent .
I don't sweet talk my way out of a legitimate ticket. I accept accountability. Lotsa yes sirs' and compliance does wonders in regrouping . I did fight a parking ticket...because A: neither my car nor myself was in that town. Ever!. They came to my house to serve the warrant cuz it went unpaid. I had to show proof of my where abouts. Car was in for body repair and I was at work. It was dismissed .
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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I was warned about this prior to driving through, by a trucker.
Boy was he right, just south of Macon they were lined up all the way to the border.
Also just got my first speeding tic in over a decade. I punched the gas to dry the car after spraying the salt off, didn't want doors and windows to freeze.
Car was still wet on a sunny day, cop didn't care.
$270 to get supervision in this state for doing 22 over.
When your going though Valdosta, Ga ONE GPS “Gods special people” as they are called lol. Sits on top of an overpass., he only tags out of state drivers because locals know this is illegal. There are 4 or 5 sitting on the on ramp lined up and ready to go. Even when I moved back West people tell horror story’s about the GSP.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:43 PM
 
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I was warned about this prior to driving through, by a trucker.
Boy was he right, just south of Macon they were lined up all the way to the border.
Also just got my first speeding tic in over a decade. I punched the gas to dry the car after spraying the salt off, didn't want doors and windows to freeze.
Car was still wet on a sunny day, cop didn't care.
$270 to get supervision in this state for doing 22 over.

They double the fine in work zones.. Maybe they should double it for stupid excuses.


Maybe you should have tried "I was speeding so the drinks I had wouldn't catch up to me and make me drunk"
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Old 02-13-2019, 03:05 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Didn't follow your earlier saga. Subject line sounds like my dad, who had very few if-any infractions or contacts with police. Not once, ever, growing up and not sure in his 60s and 70s before he passed. He was a hooligan in his youth who reformed at about age 30, though, when he married my mom. So there you go.

"Ticket" conversations, like some other explosive subjects on C-D, usually and almost instantly devolve into three and only three positions, hurled as insults:

1. "Pay it, it's the right thing to do, you criminal! What'd you do that for, anyway? You're a punk!"
2. Don't pay it, get a lawyer, fight the man via push-button warfare: he goes in, fights it, case dismissed, I pay.
3. I'll fight it myself, damn the torpedoes! On my worst day I'm smarter than Judge Bork!

I should make that into a poll...

Guess you went option 3?
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Not sure about where you live but the local cops in my area will "suggest" they might work something out in court. They get paid overtime....


Last ticket I received was from PA State Trooper who are typically very reasonable. I was doing 85 in a 65 on the Turnpike which is pretty normal. I was actually surprised he pulled me over. He issued me a "illegally operated a vehicle" ticket for something like $100 total. Basically the equivalent of a littering fine, no points. I think he was fishing for other violations like no license etc.
As an attorney, usually working it out with the cops, with the help of a lawyer is best. Often they can bargain it down to a non-speed such as "violating a traffic-control device", that device being the speed limit sign.

I would prefer it if more people will do this, however, Strategy to Defeat Speed Traps, Texting and Other Nonsense Laws. I really hate it when I see people pulled over, and their day ruined for no particularly good reason.
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Here's my modest proposal; that people organize to have large numbers of people take tickets of the kind described below to trial. The results could be both effective, comedic and educational.

With laws on the books such as texting laws (Ticket for Holding Phone While Driving), unreasonably low speed limits, Does Anyone Feel Speed Limits Are Too Low?, and ones under consideration, such as banning texting and walking, New Jersey is considering banning texting while walking (PC on a rampage),, and eating and driving, NJ About to Ban Driving and Eating, it's time for people to fight back. The legislators are in the thrall of insurance companies and political correctness.

After reading a book by William Adler called The Man Who Never Died, about Joe Hill, a labor organizer (a book I highly recommend) I came up with a strategy. The labor movement, int he early part of the 20th Century was harassed by communities issuing tickets for "disorderly conduct" and jailing people on trumped up charges to stop demonstrations. The demonstrators came up with the strategy of having everyone plead "not guilty" and demanding a jury trial. Towns with limited resources, such as Fresno in 1908 or 1909 (still not a wealthy place) would be fiscally ruined by the expense.

So why not try to get people who were not actually endangering life and limb to plead not guilty, and demand the most elaborate trial possible. Many jurisdictions don't allow for jury trials on traffic infringements. But if large numbers of people stopped for low-grade speeding violations or cell-phone violations pleaded not guilty, showed up and refused to take a plea and the pretrial conferences and demanded a trial, the part-time judges' calendars would stretch well into the night. And the courtroom would be packed with just about every police officer who would have to appear.

Worth a try?
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:21 AM
 
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They double the fine in work zones.. Maybe they should double it for stupid excuses.


Maybe you should have tried "I was speeding so the drinks I had wouldn't catch up to me and make me drunk"

Maybe they should cease policing for profit, and find real jobs.
Wasn't a work zone, this state is broke/corrupt; so they upped the fines on everything.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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Here you can pretty much always negotiate the ticket to a higher fee non-moving violation and get no points, which is more important than the fee. typically they change the charge to double parking which is $450 instead of $250, but you get no points. For us, points will cost us thousands in the next several years on increased insurance rates.
Then you should change insurance companies. In almost 50 years of driving, my insurance has never been affected as a result of any traffic tickets/points on my DL, only chargeable accidents.
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