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Old 04-22-2019, 07:23 PM
 
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Every vehicle has its purpose.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:50 PM
 
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Just under half of US households have landline phones, so not a "vast minority".

https://nypost.com/2017/05/04/why-ne...ave-landlines/
But how often do they use them?
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:52 PM
 
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I still have one. I live in a hurricane prone area, and cell towers get blown down.

At the same time, it’s one of the reasons I wouldn’t want an EV, if the power is out for weeks there will be no way to charge one. At least with gas I can fill some cans and have reserves.
You could have a gas operated generator to charge your EV in such a situation, if you've got gas reserves.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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"If everybody drove electric cars"

Not in my lifetime, nor yours!
Less than a half percent of the new cars sold in the US were electric in 2018. This is after how many years....geeez!!
In 2007, after nearly 150 years, only 1% of all phones were smartphones. I knew they'd never catch on.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Here
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I have no interest, zero, in owning or driving an electric car. I enjoy the power and sound of the internal combustion engine. I frankly do not care whether it would save gas or oil...I'm going to drive what I want...when i want....and for as long as I want. It's my money, my time, and my life.

If you want an electric car...have at it. I will not be joining you.

-G
There were plenty of people that didn't want to ride an internal combustion motor carriage, it didn't stop the progress.

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one more thing to consider, infrastructure. it took us over one hundred years to get where we are now. d you really think that someone is going to snap their fingers and suddenly have the necessary infrastructure available to run thismassive fleet of electric cars you seem to envision OP?


sorry it wont happen. to get where we are now with EVs, it will take another one hundred years to get there, unless of course you want to try and force businesses to spend the trillions of dollars needed to suddenly build the necessary infrastructure to handle the EV fleet you envision.


and that means no only high level charging stations, and battery exchange stations, but all the necessary power plants and major improvements in the electrical grid to handle all the new amounts of power running through the lines to handle the massive increase in electrical loads at all time of the day.
It did not take 100 years.

Cars started being mass produced in the early 1900s. Sure we are more mature today, in 2019 than we were in 1970, but 1970, there were not people riding horse drawn carriages on their commute to work in Los angeles, smallville, or anytown USA.
It was within the first half of the century that cars were regular things a lot of people had.

In terms of the infrastructure, there are plenty of public charging stations to support a large number of people and that number grows by the day.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/07...ging-stations/

And if you want to go further.
How many people have a gas pump at home? I've never met anyone, maybe a farmer or small business owner in the middle of no where?
OK, How many people who live in a house have a 120V electrical outlet in their garage or covered carpark? Yes I live in a suburb with thousands of them.


As for the actual grid you have a point, but obviously the question asked was hypothetical. Of course there's no way to flip a switch so to speak, and have every car EV overnight. But if we knew it was going to happen by a certain date, you would bet that the power grid will be able to support it by then because that's where the money would be.


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If everyone drove electric cars the grid would crash. That's what would happen. There is no way today's electrical system could handle the load.
Like I mentioned above, obviously it wouldn't just happen overnight, but it could happen in the next 30 yrs that a majority of vehicles are fully EV. The grid would support it by then if they needed to.




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Just under half of US households have landline phones, so not a "vast minority".

https://nypost.com/2017/05/04/why-ne...ave-landlines/
How many of them need it?
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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At the same time, it’s one of the reasons I wouldn’t want an EV, if the power is out for weeks there will be no way to charge one. At least with gas I can fill some cans and have reserves.
You can generate electricity, right on your own property, a dozen ways including two or three Rube Goldberg methods.

Got an oil refinery in your garage?
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:56 PM
 
Location: The South
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All electric cars are becoming more and more common. If everybody drove electric cars there would be far less air pollution and it would really save on oil and gas. My next car will probably be all electric.
I like to get to my destination and back.
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:57 PM
 
Location: NNV
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Funny, this isn't quite my definition of "lower air pollution"...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ina/index.html
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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A mileage tax would have to be implemented. True, the gas tax only covers half the cost of maintaining the roads, but it's better than nothing. There will be a lot of yelling and screaming, but it has to be done. Good news: gas, for those left who use it, will be cheaper.
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Here
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Funny, this isn't quite my definition of "lower air pollution"...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ina/index.html
Sure. And the fire department only gets called on car crashes involving electric vehicles.
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