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Old 04-25-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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I've long seen that when a French make makes an ugly car, everyone calls it quirky or unique but if a German or Japanese comes up with a similar quirky design people would go on say it's boring or ugly.

The fact how VW has been bashed for copying Tatra with the Bug but no one says that the Citroen 2CV is just a stolen German design seems like there's still too much Germanophobia in the English language world going on. The 2CV is basically a Porsche Type 12 rear/side with a different front:



Oh and Dire Straits' The Walk Of Life ripped off Arabesque's Take Me Don't Break Me hook. And Lady Gaga's Poker Face "mamamamama" comes from Ma Baker, a song by a German band. Weird how the Frenchies get so much credit while Germans are discredited, but for the sake of this subforum, lets'focus on the 2CV. Not just the VW Bug was a clone after all, huh!
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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You’re wrong. 2CV is front engine, front wheel drive, and engineered to meet certain standards the Beetle wasn’t designed for. The only thing they share is a rounded passenger and rear compartment. Several other cars of that era had a round passenger and rear compartment. It’s no beauty in my eyes but I don’t have an emotional attachment to this vehicle. But it served the people of France at a dark time in their history so it does have its loyal fans and I don’t hold that against them.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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Did the German car have interconnected front and rear suspensions as the 2CV did? Or is there just a cosmetic resemblance?
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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Did the German car have interconnected front and rear suspensions as the 2CV did? Or is there just a cosmetic resemblance?
Germans do not engineer with rubber bands.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:41 PM
 
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I'm uncertain as to where you get your evidence to suggest that the 2CV is a stolen design of a German design. Maybe this is an automotive example of convergent evolution, but there are enough differences to discard that.

Here's a link to the history of the 2CV;

https://www.citroen.co.uk/about-citr...nd/citroen-2cv

Personally I have driven 2CVs many miles and a Beetle just a few. I far preferred the Citroen but can understand why people like either.
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Old 04-25-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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The DS, CX, SM and XM were completely French great designs. But the 2CV copied the looks of the Porsche.
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Old 04-25-2019, 02:07 PM
 
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Germans do not engineer with rubber bands.

Having had one of their motorcycle final drives go kerblamo at only 43K, I think sometimes they don't engineer at all.
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Old 04-25-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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The DS, CX, SM and XM were completely French great designs. But the 2CV copied the looks of the Porsche.
It can be difficult to tell cars of any one era apart based on similarity of look - it's as much esthetics and design preferences (and limitations) of the time as much as any overt copying.
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Old 04-25-2019, 03:31 PM
 
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Having had one of their motorcycle final drives go kerblamo at only 43K, I think sometimes they don't engineer at all.

That's because you're cowbow American that doesn't know how to handle the masterful engineering and art that Germans breath their souls into. You're not supposed to go vroom vrooom vreeeeeeeeee vreeeeeeeeee everywhere you go like some obnoxious animal, you're supposed to drive gently into the darkness of the black forest with your loved one until you both find a place to make love under the stars, or impress your boss with your individuality by choosing to commute with a more greener choice.
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Old 04-25-2019, 04:03 PM
 
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Muricans are retarded but that's not the subject. The space program of USA was created by a German.
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