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Old 05-25-2019, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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In my area, the Tesla Model 3 is out of control - tons of sales and it might be expanding to people who are not exactly “techies,” which is a win for Elon Musk. Since EVs have a “1-speed” transmission, are they more reliable? Of the numerous vehicles I’ve owned over my life, seems like the transmission is the most unreliable part, and very expensive to replace.

Also, no oil changes or other engine maintainence like spark plugs, coolant change, air filter or valve adjustment. Does regenerative braking help with brake maintenance? Seems like a software update can take care of many Tesla or EV issues.

On the other hand, I realize battery lifespan needs to be looked at. I’ve also heard things about Model 3 build quality/rattles but seems like my neighbors say there are no rattles at all?
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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In theory yes, I believe there are far fewer moving parts involved.

I have also noticed a lot more Tesla's around here lately!
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Old 05-25-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: The South
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Flashlights should be very reliable, but every time you need one, it won't work.
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Old 05-25-2019, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Flashlights should be very reliable, but every time you need one, it won't work.



What sort of battery management system does a flashlight have? EVs (other than Leafs) tend to have intelligent battery management, with controls on how far down the battery can be used to, and how full it can be charged to. This combined with liquid cooled thermal management for both heat and cold, tend to make EV batteries much more reliable than those in flashlights, phones and laptops.
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Old 05-25-2019, 03:09 PM
 
Location: WA
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Yes, in theory it is a less complicated more flexible way to power vehicles. But battery technology and charging infrastructure is at least one generation short of being able to provide the highly capable service we have come to expect. So I recently bought a IC vehicle.
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Old 05-25-2019, 04:48 PM
 
Location: The South
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[quote=cvetters63;55265873]What sort of battery management system does a flashlight have? EVs (other than Leafs) tend to have intelligent battery management, with controls on how far down the battery can be used to, and how full it can be charged to. This combined with liquid cooled thermal management for both heat and cold, tend to make EV batteries much more reliable than those in flashlights, phones and laptops.[/QUOTE
Typically, D cells, AA or AAA cells, all easily replaceable by owner, available at every store.
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Old 05-25-2019, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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What sort of battery management system does a flashlight have? EVs (other than Leafs) tend to have intelligent battery management, with controls on how far down the battery can be used to, and how full it can be charged to. This combined with liquid cooled thermal management for both heat and cold, tend to make EV batteries much more reliable than those in flashlights, phones and laptops.

If eye rolls could be heard, it would be deafening.
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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Go to YouTube and do a search on Tesla fit & finish.

Personally, I'd prefer a Porsche Taycan. https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...price-release/
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:33 PM
 
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For a given cost, complexity is the enemy of reliability. So yes, a system with fewer moving parts should be able to be made more reliable at a given price point. But there are no guarantees, it all depends on the manufacturer, there are plenty of poor designers that are no doubt able to build a simple, cheap system that is prone to failure through inept engineering and execution. I'm watching Honda's prototype City Car carefully, if the market grows to the point where Toyota and Honda start churning these things out, they're the ones to watch for better quality and reliability, although the Koreans have improved their quality greatly in recent years. Time will tell whether Tesla's turn out to be reliable vehicles for the long term.
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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It's not much different than the former technologies - for example, solid state is vastly more reliable than Tubes, etc.

Modern electric motors are miracles of simple efficiency. These motors are driving a LOT of high technology (drones, for example) due to reliability, computer control and the flexibility of use.

A regular care engine is incredibly complicated - then you have to add all the various transmissions, gears, etc.

A properly designed EV will use vastly less in terms of brakes, since that energy is being used to charge the battery back up.

In theory, there is no comparison at all. The EV is not just slightly better.....

In practice, tho, 100+ years of making cars the old fashioned way has made them incredibly reliable....especially considering the complexity.

Still, in the long run that doesn't change the formula. Eventually there are likely to be few, if any, internal combustion engines in our passenger vehicles.
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