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Old 06-18-2019, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Texas
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My SIL drives a 2015 Subaru Outback with the CVT. It's been trouble free. I've driven it a couple of times and found it smooth and responsive.
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Old 06-18-2019, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Ford Issues Three Recalls on Over 1.8 Million Cars and Pickups. "Depending on how fast the truck is going, Ford says, an abrupt transmission shift into first gear without a warning could result in loss of vehicle control, increasing the risk of a crash."
Ford Recalls Over 1.8 Million Cars and Pickups | Fortune

"Lawsuit: Ford hid Focus, Fiesta transmission problems — then blamed customers"
https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...it/1119773001/

"[Dodge] Ram recalls nearly 1.5 million trucks in the U.S. over shifting issue"... "In the 1.48 million Ram trucks being recalled, a faulty transmission interlock may malfunction and cause the truck to shift out of park without applying the brake pedal or even requiring the key in the ignition. "
https://www.nydailynews.com/autos/ne...icle-1.3735193

Yeah, if these automakers can ever get these newfangled automatic transmissions figured out, maybe I'll buy one. Until then, you just keep on telling yourself the conventional automatic doesn't have issues.
A lot of the issues with DCTs (in the case of the Fiesta) is people not understanding how they work. It’s an automated manual, not an automatic. You can’t drive them the same way you drive a normal automatic. Hyundai has received the same complaints with theirs.
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:18 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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And you have proven my point people talking smack about something they have never owned, it’s always that they read or know someone.
Well why WOULD I own it? Would you not trust a personal trainer who didnt have an obesity problem, or refuse surgery from a surgeon who never had a bypass done on themselves? Absurd. I try not to buy ****ty products, so yeah, I do lack those stories.
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:20 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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Ford Issues Three Recalls on Over 1.8 Million Cars and Pickups. "Depending on how fast the truck is going, Ford says, an abrupt transmission shift into first gear without a warning could result in loss of vehicle control, increasing the risk of a crash."
Ford Recalls Over 1.8 Million Cars and Pickups | Fortune

"Lawsuit: Ford hid Focus, Fiesta transmission problems — then blamed customers"
https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...it/1119773001/

"[Dodge] Ram recalls nearly 1.5 million trucks in the U.S. over shifting issue"... "In the 1.48 million Ram trucks being recalled, a faulty transmission interlock may malfunction and cause the truck to shift out of park without applying the brake pedal or even requiring the key in the ignition. "
https://www.nydailynews.com/autos/ne...icle-1.3735193

Yeah, if these automakers can ever get these newfangled automatic transmissions figured out, maybe I'll buy one. Until then, you just keep on telling yourself the conventional automatic doesn't have issues.
Yup. I dont own an American car either, thanks. You're right. They have qa/qc issues. I DO have some stories of my own there before I figured that out though, sadly. Now its 100% Japan sourced and assembled, no drivetrains without a minimum of 3 years trouble free production history. Its done me a solid, those two criteria!
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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My understanding of and experience with CVTs:

Throttle response isn't typically as good as with a conventional automatic or especially a manual. This seems to be primarily where people feel CVTs are "slow" - most are simply not as responsive under rapid changes. However, they accelerate just as quickly, if not moreso than automatics and manuals once they've settled into their gear ratio since they can peg the engine at redline and not leave it.

Some CVTs are more reliable than others. Most seem to last "long enough" these days. They're also typically lighter and have fewer parasitic losses than torque converter automatics, so you get better fuel economy and lower vehicle weight (compared with a conventional auto anyway).
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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My understanding of and experience with CVTs:

Throttle response isn't typically as good as with a conventional automatic or especially a manual. This seems to be primarily where people feel CVTs are "slow" - most are simply not as responsive under rapid changes. However, they accelerate just as quickly, if not moreso than automatics and manuals once they've settled into their gear ratio since they can peg the engine at redline and not leave it.

Some CVTs are more reliable than others. Most seem to last "long enough" these days. They're also typically lighter and have fewer parasitic losses than torque converter automatics, so you get better fuel economy and lower vehicle weight (compared with a conventional auto anyway).
On our new Subaru the throttle response is practically the same as my Forester. Yes, CVTs have come a long way in the last 20 years. My guess longevity has also improved
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Toyota has started to use an actual 1st gear combined with the belt to try to eliminate the rubber band feeling.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...with-1st-gear/
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Well why WOULD I own it? Would you not trust a personal trainer who didnt have an obesity problem, or refuse surgery from a surgeon who never had a bypass done on themselves? Absurd. I try not to buy ****ty products, so yeah, I do lack those stories.
So you’re just telling others what you read so that makes you an expert on them then like other people have said they have no problems with theirs even past 100,000 miles.
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Old 06-18-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: NWA/SWMO
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So you’re just telling others what you read so that makes you an expert on them then like other people have said they have no problems with theirs even past 100,000 miles.
Say what you want with your sample of 1, I'm not buying any current production CVT equipped vehicles. Zero advantages to one. Not reliable in higher torque applications like mine, either, even if they do work alright in some other applications, for a while.
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Old 06-18-2019, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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So you’re just telling others what you read so that makes you an expert on them then like other people have said they have no problems with theirs even past 100,000 miles.
Generally, if something is junk the word gets out pretty fast. I didn’t need to own a Ford Taurus to know they had terrible transmissions. I didn’t need to own a Chrysler 2.7 to know they were prone to sludge. I didn’t need to own a Chevy with a 5.3 to know they have cylinder deactivation issues.

Sometimes just being observant goes a long way.
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