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I'd put his contemporary John DeLorean ahead of Iacocca, but at least Lido never... went completely off the rails. He did, however, get shot in the forehead in Watchmen.
Why?
Personally, I have no respect for a man caught red-handed making a drug deal and having the chutzpah to place a full-page ad in a newspaper proclaiming his innocence and soliciting contributions to his legal defense. And IIRC he screwed over Colin Chapman pretty badly and Chapman was an exponentially more creative/talented engineer than DeLorean ever was.
Personally, I have no respect for a man caught red-handed making a drug deal and having the chutzpah to place a full-page ad in a newspaper proclaiming his innocence and soliciting contributions to his legal defense. And IIRC he screwed over Colin Chapman pretty badly and Chapman was an exponentially more creative/talented engineer than DeLorean ever was.
Well, to start with, what part of "go off the rails" did you not understand?
Compare JZD's tenure at GM with Iacocca's at Ford and it should be clear. A bit of a Gates/Jobs mismatched comparison, but one was a visionary and one was a businessman.
.... and had yellow split leather Corinthian leather seats my wife purchased a Chrysler Cordoba, a lemon. Years alter, Lee I. appeared in a nationwide commercial apologizing for that P.O.S.
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Well, to start with, what part of "go off the rails" did you not understand?
Compare JZD's tenure at GM with Iacocca's at Ford and it should be clear. A bit of a Gates/Jobs mismatched comparison, but one was a visionary and one was a businessman.
I believe he was a self-promoting huckster with little character long before he "went off the rails". What do you believe makes him a visionary? I don't see the GTO as any more visionary than the Mustang and "wide-track" was as much advertising as anything else..
I believe he was a self-promoting huckster with little character long before he "went off the rails". What do you believe makes him a visionary? I don't see the GTO as any more visionary than the Mustang and "wide-track" was as much advertising as anything else..
Okay. Iacocca didn't single-handedly invent the Mustang, either; he came along in time to pull the blanket off at the Chicago show.
If I remember right when Iacocca left Ford, he took the mini van idea with him to Chrysler. Ford hated the idea. Iacocca saw something that would sell.
If I remember right when Iacocca left Ford, he took the mini van idea with him to Chrysler. Ford hated the idea. Iacocca saw something that would sell.
Well... there were predecessors. Also, the only thing that kept fatalities low in the rolling death traps that were the first several years of minivans was that they were driven by, well, minivan drivers. Chrysler's cost strategy was to sell a vehicle meant to be packed with people built to flimsy (but cheap) light-truck standards, based on an almost trivial technicality.
Well... there were predecessors. Also, the only thing that kept fatalities low in the rolling death traps that were the first several years of minivans was that they were driven by, well, minivan drivers. Chrysler's cost strategy was to sell a vehicle meant to be packed with people built to flimsy (but cheap) light-truck standards, based on an almost trivial technicality.
I wasnt a fan of the mini van. I remember seeing the commercials pushing it as a soccer mom, haul all the kids, load and unload out the sliding door type of vehicle. They were cheaply made, but sold millions.
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Okay. Iacocca didn't single-handedly invent the Mustang, either; he came along in time to pull the blanket off at the Chicago show.
From what I read he came along in time to convince Henry II, who didn't like the idea, to build it. Personally, I 've always wished they'd built a production version of the Mustang I show car, was a good looking little car.
.... and had yellow split leather Corinthian leather seats my wife purchased a Chrysler Cordoba, a lemon. Years alter, Lee I. appeared in a nationwide commercial apologizing for that P.O.S.
I dont seem to recall any apology from him except for odometer discrepancies on some test cars tat were sold to the public. One of my old friends still has his 79 Cordoba, dark red inside and out and that big 400 Chrysler under the hood. Damn fun car to ride in.
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