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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season -OR- Michelin Primacy Tour All Season.
I want a great quiet and soft ride with good traction in rain and snow.
For a 2011 Toyota Avalon Limited with 215 55 17 V sized tires and I reside in NJ. I do about 70 or so percent of my driving on the highway. The rest is on not the greatest of paved roads in slower traffic.
I'd appreciate your opinion on this as tomorrow I have to choose between the two.
The online reviews are all over the place and don't know for sure if all/most of them are from actual customers of such hence I ask you intelligent people here of your opinion and or experience with one or both of these.
Michelin. My experience with the P7s is that the tire noise gets pretty back once you get beyond 60% treadwear. It was so so bad at 50-60mph that I thought I had a bad wheel bearing. This was on a 2007 Lexus Rx400h.
I wouldn't put Pirellis on my lawn mower. I wouldn't be happy with the polyester corded Michelin's either. Unless you just like future balance issues, I'd avoid the polyester that stretches as it ages creating an unbalanced and out of round tire. An option to consider would be the Yokohama YK740 GTX tire. It's a 149MPH rated tire, AA rating for temperature and wear, 740 UTOG, and a 60,000 mile warranty. The orange oil in the compound of the rubber makes for a quiet, soft riding tire. It's an all season tire as well and it's designed for the luxury car segment. I've had a few sets and the difference is very noticeable between the old Michelins and this Yokohama tire. Your money, your car.
I wouldn't put Pirellis on my lawn mower. I wouldn't be happy with the polyester corded Michelin's either. Unless you just like future balance issues, I'd avoid the polyester that stretches as it ages creating an unbalanced and out of round tire. An option to consider would be the Yokohama YK740 GTX tire. It's a 149MPH rated tire, AA rating for temperature and wear, 740 UTOG, and a 60,000 mile warranty. The orange oil in the compound of the rubber makes for a quiet, soft riding tire. It's an all season tire as well and it's designed for the luxury car segment. I've had a few sets and the difference is very noticeable between the old Michelins and this Yokohama tire. Your money, your car.
It's funny you mention Yokohama Tires as I currently can't wait to rid of the brand new Yokohama Ascend GT Tires (I know different from the tire you're referencing) I ordered from my local tire place (to be replaced there with one of the two choices I mentioned in this thread) as they make my 2011 Avalon ride quite hard and noisy. The Yokohama YK740 GTX is not available for order from where my tire place and I'm kind of stuck now using this place b/c there's only store credit for a complete return and I don't want hundreds of dollars of store credit "if" I were interested to find a place that sold those tires you referenced - thanks, but unfortunately a "moot" point at this point in time. That Texas heat must do numbers to tires I imagine. BTW, the Michelin tire I referenced are "supposed to be different" than the older modeled Michelins as far as traction staying pretty much the same as they wear according to Michelin I recall.
I got 70k miles out of my first set of Cinturato P7 All-Season Plus, which is what they were advertised to achieve. So I replaced them with the exact same tires, and put them on my second car as well. Very good in the wet, and not bad when temps are at or near the freezing point.
Less expensive than Michelins, especially at Sam's Club.
I'd look at the new Michelin Cross Climate +.
I'm running BFG G-Force Comp2 A/S and have about 10,000 on them and am quite pleased with them.
I don't think Primacy is one of the better Michelin lines.
I had those same Pirellis on both our cars, though TR says they're iffy in the wet I never had any issues in the rain and I do occasionally run with scissors.
I look at TR's tests and then throw a dart at the board.
I would not buy some cheap crap Chinese Wal Mart tires. I have bought tires at WM before and WM is not the issue, cheap junk is the issue.
Neither.
Vercelli Strada II's... $62.85 a tire at Walmart.
Exactly. For Toyota highway driving, why buy more than you need?
As for Michelin, last ones I had I drove on some bad roads at times, and busted out four sidewalls in two years.
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