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Old 09-14-2019, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Seven billion people do NOT live in Round Rock, and form a marketplace that will have a lot to say about the evolution of the global auto industry.


The US buys only 20% of the world's autos -- less than China and equal to the rest of Asia. Those countries, self-drive cars are useless in their traffic conditions and electricity is prohibitively costly. Do not expect Round Rock to set the pace for world auto thinking.
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Old 09-14-2019, 04:18 AM
 
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A lot of construction projects keep happening to de-wide location distances between neighborhoods and certain venues

We can keep hyping up self driving cars all we want, but to be fair even they're gonna be pointless as the world becomes more localized in terms of businesses and institutions.

There's like 5 construction projects going on in my town right now, no kidding.

How localized do you think your area will get in these next 10 years?

This is especially becoming truer for urban areas
How much parking space is being put in as these new construction projects are completed? How many bus stops? Train stops? Bike racks? Pedestrian bridges?

If they are only adding parking space and not also adding support for other modes of transportation, the projects are not actually doing much to lead the city’s residents and visitors away from automobile use.

The great unintended effect of automobile-oriented construction is that it imposes a substantial burden on cyclists and pedestrians, who have to travel larger distances due to the space dedicated to parking, and in some areas, must accept a significant risk of personal injury from motor vehicles.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:01 AM
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Umm, we rural-ites who live 20 or 50 miles from the nearest supermarket and whose population density doesn't support public transportation are going to need cars or trucks or SUVs for a long, long time.
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Old 09-14-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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"A lot of construction projects keep happening to de-wide location distances between neighborhoods and certain venues"

Ironically this might be happening on a neighborhood level at the same time as predators like AMAZON put local suppliers out of business. This further centralizes supply of goods and sadly increases our waste (transport, packaging, etc).
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Old 09-14-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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City person, living in a little bubble where nothing exists except for what is immediately around them.


If that is the way it is in their area, that must be the way it is all over the country,
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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City person, living in a little bubble where nothing exists except for what is immediately around them.


If that is the way it is in their area, that must be the way it is all over the country,
Exactly what I read.
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Old 09-14-2019, 02:43 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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How much parking space is being put in as these new construction projects are completed? How many bus stops? Train stops? Bike racks? Pedestrian bridges?

If they are only adding parking space and not also adding support for other modes of transportation, the projects are not actually doing much to lead the city’s residents and visitors away from automobile use.

The great unintended effect of automobile-oriented construction is that it imposes a substantial burden on cyclists and pedestrians, who have to travel larger distances due to the space dedicated to parking, and in some areas, must accept a significant risk of personal injury from motor vehicles.
In Seattle they are approving big apartment buildings with no parking at all if within a few blocks of a bus stop. Then people move in with two cars and compete it’s the neighbors for any available street parking, and it becomes a mess. Eventually the city puts in meters and people can’t park near their own home until after 6pm or 9pm depending on the area, and have to be out or pay again by 8am. (Sunday’s are free).

Just because there is a bus stop nearby doesn’t mean people without cars will move in.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:53 PM
 
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The topic of this thread reminds me of the other one about banning clothes dryers.

People need to get out of their bubbles or safe zones, wherever they are stuck.
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Old 09-14-2019, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Just because there is a bus stop nearby doesn’t mean people without cars will move in.
It means they might. The option remains open.
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Old 09-16-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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A lot of construction projects keep happening to de-wide location distances between neighborhoods and certain venues

We can keep hyping up self driving cars all we want, but to be fair even they're gonna be pointless as the world becomes more localized in terms of businesses and institutions.

There's like 5 construction projects going on in my town right now, no kidding.

How localized do you think your area will get in these next 10 years?

This is especially becoming truer for urban areas
Localized or not, my cottage is still 250 miles away, and I need something that can tow. Yeah, I don't see vehicles going away anytime soon. Maybe for the large coastal cities... not in the middle of America.
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