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Old 11-23-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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Same thing can be said about GMC and Chevy Heavy truck GM sold 86% to Volvo and was called Volvo GM. Following the GMC General, Volvo GM produced the WhiteGMC WC/WI Class 8 conventional, introduced in 1980 as the White Road Boss 2, the model line was produced through 2000 in various forms as a White, WhiteGMC, Autocar, and Volvo. So many companies bought out big rig manufacturers.


https://ezfreightfactoring.com/blog/...-united-states
Lots of capital required plus an industry that is very cyclical from year to year. Not for the weak.

Your link was 2015...look at how much the market shares have changed through last year:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...united-states/

Navistar took a nosedive due to their their horrible Maxxforce engines. (Amongst other self-inflicted issues.)
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Old 11-23-2019, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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Right—the two Volvos, one thar builds trucks and one that builds cars, are completely separate companies.
I didn't know that, thought it was one company owned by the Chinese.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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That's great except Volvo has the worst build quality/cab construction in the industry. I don't think anyone should be taking pointers from their videos.
Great engines, though.
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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Great engines, though.
Says who? Volvo engines are not very good. Noisy and not fuel efficient at all. There is a reason they don't sell very many of them.

Detroit is by far the best heavy duty engine, and that's why Freightliner's market share is 3X everyone elses.
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Old 11-23-2019, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Says who? Volvo engines are not very good. Noisy and not fuel efficient at all. There is a reason they don't sell very many of them.

Detroit is by far the best heavy duty engine, and that's why Freightliner's market share is 3X everyone elses.
My brother liked Detroit also and old cat’s.
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Old 11-23-2019, 03:10 PM
 
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I view Volvo trucks as the Kia of the trucking world. Cheap, compared to other brands, you see several running up and down the road. They’re not remarkable.
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Old 11-23-2019, 04:21 PM
 
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Ford was a good bang-for-the-buck truck but then of course they sold their heavy duty truck line to Daimler.
(Sterling.)

Western Star is still the only 100% all-steel cab. (For now....*wink*wink*) That's part of what makes those cabs so bulletproof and long lasting.

Daimler's plants for Freightliner & Western Star are mostly UAW, too, even in North Carolina. A little strange to have union plants in a primarily non-union state.
Fun fact NC is THE lowest (50 of 50 states) in union participation. Only 1.9% of jobs are protected by a union.

Another one: the Freightliner plant in Cleveland, NC (outside Salisbury) is UAW and follows the pay scale accordingly. The Freightliner plant in Gastonia, NC (outside Charlotte) is *NOT* unionized and their top pay caps out around half of the UAW guys, and they have NO pension.

Let's see: $14/hr and no pension, or $28/hr and pension. Hmm...

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Old 11-23-2019, 05:20 PM
 
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I view Volvo trucks as the Kia of the trucking world. Cheap, compared to other brands, you see several running up and down the road. They’re not remarkable.
That’s pretty accurate.

When you quote trucks with specs that are apples-to-apples, Volvo is typically fighting with International for the cheapest price. Build ‘em cheap and sell them cheap, that’s their business model.

Then on the other end we have Western Star which the most expensive brand.
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Old 11-23-2019, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Says who? Volvo engines are not very good. Noisy and not fuel efficient at all. There is a reason they don't sell very many of them.

Detroit is by far the best heavy duty engine, and that's why Freightliner's market share is 3X everyone elses.
They own the marine diesel market.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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[quote=Larry Caldwell;56709392]They own the marine diesel market.[/QUOTE

Detroit Diesel Corporation (DDC) is an American diesel engine manufacturer headquartered in Detroit, Michigan, United States and a subsidiary of Daimler Trucks North America, itself a wholly owned subsidiary of the German Daimler AG. Detroit Diesel Corp. said it will spend $194 million to renovate its 72-year-old Redford, Mich., plant, the latest example of truck makers pouring investments into diesel engine facilities to manufacture the complicated new power plants and vertically integrate production.
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