Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 12-15-2019, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
16,569 posts, read 15,261,600 times
Reputation: 14590

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuero View Post
The original question being asked was how to get a vehicle from cold start to operating temperature with the least amount of wear. The theory presented was that a cold engine suffers more wear than a warm one so you want to get it warm as quickly as possible; the idea is driving gently at 1200-1800 RPM is supposed to provide the optimal trade-off between wear and time to operating temperature. They claim idling does very little to warm an engine and so damages it. Not my theory but I'm clarifying for those that may not have read the original articles.
Fact of the matter is there is NO way to trace engine failure 10 years down the road to cold start driving when new. This is like someone say would my engine fail if I use 10w-30 instead of 30w? No one knows for sure.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-16-2019, 03:05 PM
 
22,654 posts, read 24,579,035 times
Reputation: 20319
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
The engine warms up faster when the car is moving.

The difference in wear/tear is, in most situations, very small when you compare sitting and
warming-up VS warming-up while driving.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2019, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New York Area
35,016 posts, read 16,972,291 times
Reputation: 30137
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redraven View Post
Actually, IIRC -40 is the same on either scale. The ONLY temperature where that is true!
I was kidding. Even with my limited education and 79 IQ I knew that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2019, 06:00 PM
 
Location: MN
6,541 posts, read 7,121,664 times
Reputation: 5819
My glow plugs on my diesel don’t work anymore. If I forget to plug it in, it won’t start when it’s around zero.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2019, 06:10 PM
 
Location: NYC
20,550 posts, read 17,688,561 times
Reputation: 25616


Jason explains it with more details. The point is with any fuel injection car it is pointless to warm the car longer than 1 min.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2019, 06:35 PM
 
8,272 posts, read 10,981,682 times
Reputation: 8910
Quote:
Originally Posted by tickyul View Post
The difference in wear/tear is, in most situations, very small when you compare sitting and
warming-up VS warming-up while driving.
In below freezing temperatures I let my 2009 car warm up for 15 minutes. I don't want to get into a cold car.

Do they make heated seats and heated steering wheels today?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2019, 08:17 AM
Status: "119 N/A" (set 20 days ago)
 
12,956 posts, read 13,667,161 times
Reputation: 9693
I've never warmed up car. In fact I clean off the windshield before I get in and start the the car to save myself smelling like exhaust. I was working up in Northern Wisconsin one winter and it was around 10-20 below every morning for about a month. If my 2001 Impala turned over I pulled out right on the road and drove off. I managed to get 240,000 miles out of that car and I still own it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: california
7,322 posts, read 6,920,840 times
Reputation: 9253
When I lived in th mountains I had a 1958 chevy truck, and being old It used 40 weight oil which in cold weather made it hard to start, however after it was well warmed up normal operating temperatures lent to the usual characters of its weaknesses.
During the winter months, I used a section of boat shrink wrap tarp and covered the hood and cab all the way to the ground. I also put a 100-watt rough service light in a clamp lamp inside the engine area and pugged in at night. this worked far better than the dipstick heater,, and at a glance, I knew it was working.
In the morning all I had to do is lift the plastic from the door lock and open the dry lock and open the door freeing the plastic. Then I started the truck and slid over an unlocked the passinger door to free the plastic on that side. Then I stepped outside and slid the plastic off with all the snow that had accumulated during the night and I had frost-free windows. I shook off the plastic and folded it up and stowed it behind the driver seat got in and drove to work. when I got to work I recovered the cab locking the plastic in the door jambs again and did not need to worry about snoopy skiers looking for something to steal.
When it came to leaving from work I was driving my clean cab and clear windows, while every one else was still scrapping of their windshields or still trying to get their key in the door.
Though I have shared this for many years, almost no one is got it together enough to do it as well.

Last edited by arleigh; 12-17-2019 at 08:57 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-17-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
12,384 posts, read 9,483,835 times
Reputation: 15848
Quote:
Originally Posted by vision33r View Post


Jason explains it with more details. The point is with any fuel injection car it is pointless to warm the car longer than 1 min.
More knowledge, more cogently explained, less opinion, less eccentricity and less drama than Scotty Kilmer. Far prefer EngineeringExplained, even if in this case, the final conclusion is similar.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-18-2019, 09:11 AM
 
3,782 posts, read 4,245,540 times
Reputation: 7892
Never heard of him, but agree with him. I get in, start the truck up, extend the mirrors, fasten the seat belt and back out. If below zero, I open the garage door, start it up, put on my coat then do the start up, mirrors and belt and back out. I do tend to hold off flooring the truck for a half mile if possible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top