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Old 12-11-2019, 05:54 AM
 
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What an odd thing to get annoyed about. Part of writing a good add is trying to find and list positive things about a vehicle.

I don't think there are too many out there who share your views that a car with ice cold air conditioning that drives straight would be a bad thing.
You made my point. Why in all of the various features of a car to talk about is the cold a/c so common? I haven't had to recharge an a/c in a decade having owned 3 or 4 cars.

Writing a good ad (not "add") is talking about things that would not be assumed. Again, we're not talking about some rickety 1992 Dodge Neon with 350,000 miles on it. I'm talking about newer/used vehicles with under 100K miles. And even if the a/c wasn't "ice cold", that would be a fairly quick/easy fix with an a/c re-charge.
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Old 12-11-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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You made my point. Why in all of the various features of a car to talk about is the cold a/c so common? I haven't had to recharge an a/c in a decade having owned 3 or 4 cars.

Writing a good ad (not "add") is talking about things that would not be assumed. Again, we're not talking about some rickety 1992 Dodge Neon with 350,000 miles on it. I'm talking about newer/used vehicles with under 100K miles. And even if the a/c wasn't "ice cold", that would be a fairly quick/easy fix with an a/c re-charge.
Maybe, or maybe not. I have owned cars before that had a really unimpressive a/c, even though they were properly charged.
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Old 12-11-2019, 06:36 AM
 
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Maybe, or maybe not. I have owned cars before that had a really unimpressive a/c, even though they were properly charged.
Same, although it was many years ago. Anyway, just an observation about advertisements from private sellers on their vehicles. I see it so often that it struck me as a bit odd.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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You made my point. Why in all of the various features of a car to talk about is the cold a/c so common? I haven't had to recharge an a/c in a decade having owned 3 or 4 cars.

Writing a good ad (not "add") is talking about things that would not be assumed. Again, we're not talking about some rickety 1992 Dodge Neon with 350,000 miles on it. I'm talking about newer/used vehicles with under 100K miles. And even if the a/c wasn't "ice cold", that would be a fairly quick/easy fix with an a/c re-charge.
Because A/C repairs are expensive, or seem to be. That's why. I would not be interested in a car if I had to fix the A/C.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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What is it about for sale postings that the seller feels the need to talk about the coldness of the a/c? Since I've been looking for a used car, I see this all the time. Isn't it assumed? I more or less automatically pass on any postings that state "Ice cold a/c!" because I feel like if they have a list of attributes for a car and they decide to talk about the air being cold, they probably don't have many positives to list about their car/truck. It would be like saying "All four tires drive straight!" or "Both headlights shine bright!" Just odd to me how many people post about this feature.
It depends on how old the car is. If it's less than five years old, I would assume the A/C works well. Older than that, all bets are off.

It also depends on the seller. If it's at a franchised new car dealership, I'm going to assume they went through it before putting it out on the front line. The corner used car lot in the bad part of town, I assume they didn't do a thing to it.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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Ah dunno... I could care less about ac. I don't suffer through winter, just to want to be cold when the glorious heat returns. I mever use ac, so I never carw if it works or not. It's for the weak who haven't learned how wonderful the summer is.
yeah, well, bring that attitude to Dallas or Phoenix and we'll see if you're still puffing your chest out and telling us what wimps we are.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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yeah, well, bring that attitude to Dallas or Phoenix and we'll see if you're still puffing your chest out and telling us what wimps we are.
Same here on the gulf coast, without a/c you'll be drenched in sweat if you drive during the summer. A used car with a non-functioning a/c is almost worthless in these parts.
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Old 12-11-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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"Every wheel still has all five lug nuts!"

"All tires hold air"

"Still has all of the seats."

There are a lot of positives you can pick. It is a bit of an odd choice it seems. Maybe it is for older people who still see AC as a luxury option.

It is true that in pothole lands, the AC usually leaks after a time and works weakly if at all. However advertising Ice Cold air is really a temporary thing. It is like advertising "Gas tank 2/3 full!" "Just topped off the air in the tires yesterday!" "really clean door handles!"
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Old 12-11-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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[quote=Florida2014;56836416]You made my point. Why in all of the various features of a car to talk about is the cold a/c so common? I haven't had to recharge an a/c in a decade having owned 3 or 4 cars.

Writing a good ad (not "add") is talking about things that would not be assumed. Again, we're not talking about some rickety 1992 Dodge Neon with 350,000 miles on it. I'm talking about newer/used vehicles with under 100K miles. And even if the a/c wasn't "ice cold", that would be a fairly quick/easy fix with an a/c re-charge.[/quote


Quick recharge? If you were that lucky, you are one in a million. This isn't the old days, today you take a vehicle into a shop to have the A/C fixed, you would be lucky to escape for under $1000, and usually much more.
I just had my four year old, low mileage A/C go out, it needed a clutch. In the good old days, not that long ago, if your A/C clutch went out, you replace the clutch. On today's cars, if the clutch goes out, you must replace the compressor which has the clutch on it. That means much more expense and much more labor. Cost to have that simple job was $1400.00.

No decent mechanic will simply recharge the system, they are required to test for a leak, the testing and repair is expensive. There are laws, you can't just release freon into the air, and leaks must be fixed. Also freon is very expensive and a license is required to purchase it. This is not the 1950's.....
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Old 12-11-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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R12 is very difficult to find (though a few plucky insiders claim otherwise!).
Its all over Ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...w=R12&_sacat=0

Despite the requirement of having a license to purchase it, many sellers get around that by requiring a "waiver" signed.

I have such a license and have never been asked to supply it when buying R12 off ebay. So getting a few cans of R12 is easy as clicking a button and completing the Paypal transaction.
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