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Old 12-20-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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So that’s my point they are both daily drivers for some people not garage queens.
I know people on other forums that daily drive both of these cars.
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:59 PM
 
Location: NY
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How long are they going to be able to keep the Charger and 300 afloat? Seems like they have looked the same for over a decade now.

The 300 is virtually dead now with very limited sales, which seem to have shifted Charger's way. Charger sales are up over last year, and is having one of it's best years in a couple years now. Challenger is solid. Both are making a lot of money right now too since R&D costs are long since paid for.


FCA has thrown out some easter eggs about 2023 being the potential redesign year. Insiders claim work is underway. Unknown is whether the new platform will Alfa Georgio platform based, or a further modification of the current platform based off it's latest iteration (underpinning Maseratis currently). Either way would be improvements, and upcoming turbo inline six engine option is intriguing for power and weight savings up front (which would improve weight balance and dynamic handling). Some indications a future SUV/CUV product off the new platform will help with overall factory utilization to help the business case. Of course it is all insider rumor and speculation and time will tell.


The shrinking sedan market is a FAR bigger threat to long term stability of the Charger/Challenger than the platform.
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Old 12-20-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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The Charger Hellcat has a back seat and will do 200 mph.
A CTS-V will do it too... for more $$$.
Yeah...where exactly will you do 200 mph on a daily drive in to work? Most people would **** themselves doing 200 mph.....considering most of our roads are not good enough for 200 mph and even if they were it won’t be for long. That’s 293 feet per second. That’s almost one football field a second. You really think 98% of drivers can actually handle such speeds? Bs.

The most people do with those cars is
1. BRAG about how “fast” the car is and how fast they drove and how they “smoked” some fool in a whatever car while parked at the local cars and coffee sewing circle of parked penis extensions on four wheels. Truthfully most drivers never get anywhere near 100 mph much less 200. It’s simply a my car can do 200 mph so I’m better than you with your 180 mph corvette.
The rest are
2. Some retarded street race which means crap in real life
3. Go to the track so they can brag about how good a driver they are at the job site or office cooler
4. Try to impress women.
5. Brag
6. Brag
And number
7-100. Oh yeah brag.

These cars are nothing more than ego boosters. Which is fine. I don’t really care. There are plenty of other cars I would take as a daily driver over a hellcat.
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Yeah...where exactly will you do 200 mph on a daily drive in to work? Most people would **** themselves doing 200 mph.....considering most of our roads are not good enough for 200 mph and even if they were it won’t be for long. That’s 293 feet per second. That’s almost one football field a second. You really think 98% of drivers can actually handle such speeds? Bs.

The most people do with those cars is
1. BRAG about how “fast” the car is and how fast they drove and how they “smoked” some fool in a whatever car while parked at the local cars and coffee sewing circle of parked penis extensions on four wheels. Truthfully most drivers never get anywhere near 100 mph much less 200. It’s simply a my car can do 200 mph so I’m better than you with your 180 mph corvette.
The rest are
2. Some retarded street race which means crap in real life
3. Go to the track so they can brag about how good a driver they are at the job site or office cooler
4. Try to impress women.
5. Brag
6. Brag
And number
7-100. Oh yeah brag.

These cars are nothing more than ego boosters. Which is fine. I don’t really care. There are plenty of other cars I would take as a daily driver over a hellcat.
That’s just performance cars in general and not specific to FCA.
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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That’s just performance cars in general and not specific to FCA.
Yeah... like no one in a Ferrari or Lamborghini ever does the things he claims.
The difference between those and a Hellcat/CTS-V is the latter get driven.
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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The 300 is virtually dead now with very limited sales, which seem to have shifted Charger's way. Charger sales are up over last year, and is having one of it's best years in a couple years now. Challenger is solid. Both are making a lot of money right now too since R&D costs are long since paid for.


FCA has thrown out some easter eggs about 2023 being the potential redesign year. Insiders claim work is underway. Unknown is whether the new platform will Alfa Georgio platform based, or a further modification of the current platform based off it's latest iteration (underpinning Maseratis currently). Either way would be improvements, and upcoming turbo inline six engine option is intriguing for power and weight savings up front (which would improve weight balance and dynamic handling). Some indications a future SUV/CUV product off the new platform will help with overall factory utilization to help the business case. Of course it is all insider rumor and speculation and time will tell.


The shrinking sedan market is a FAR bigger threat to long term stability of the Charger/Challenger than the platform.
Fca has a winner with the Charger/Challenger these sedans will keep selling just like the Mustang, GM is ending the Camaro is suspose to be ending production in 2023, but Fca has no plans to end production of the Charger/Challenger in fact there’s a new 2020 Charger Hellcat wide body coming out While the engine still makes 707 hp (527 kW) and 650 lb-ft (881 Nm), the vehicle benefits from wider tires and an improved suspension. The company claims it's the fastest mass-produced sedan in the world due to the top speed of 196 mph (315 kph).
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Fca has a winner with the Charger/Challenger these sedans will keep selling just like the Mustang, GM is ending the Camaro is suspose to be ending production in 2023, but Fca has no plans to end production of the Charger/Challenger in fact there’s a new 2020 Charger Hellcat wide body coming out While the engine still makes 707 hp (527 kW) and 650 lb-ft (881 Nm), the vehicle benefits from wider tires and an improved suspension. The company claims it's the fastest mass-produced sedan in the world due to the top speed of 196 mph (315 kph).
Camaro is not ending, they just pushed back the redesign.
The Widebody Hellcat is pretty awesome looking, but it's actually slower than a standard Hellcat.
The Widebody does the Charger no aero favors. Still, 196 mph is rarefied air for a sedan.

It certainly is a winner.
They keep saying it's going to get a redesign, but why fix what isn't broken?
The buyers of these throwback cars do not care if it's the latest, most modern platform.
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Old 12-21-2019, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Camaro is not ending, they just pushed back the redesign.
The Widebody Hellcat is pretty awesome looking, but it's actually slower than a standard Hellcat.
The Widebody does the Charger no aero favors. Still, 196 mph is rarefied air for a sedan.

It certainly is a winner.
They keep saying it's going to get a redesign, but why fix what isn't broken?
The buyers of these throwback cars do not care if it's the latest, most modern platform.
I’m glad GM is not getting rid of the Camaro i love the pony war between the Big3 been going on forever. And i agree why mess with something if it’s not broken the buyers of the throw back muscle cars love the design as is i know i do, takes me back to my younger days growing up in the late 60’s and 70’s. When i use to cruise Woodward ave in metro Detroit in my 64 Dodge Polara with my high school buddies.
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Old 12-21-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: MN
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I’m glad GM is not getting rid of the Camaro i love the pony war between the Big3 been going on forever. And i agree why mess with something if it’s not broken the buyers of the throw back muscle cars love the design as is i know i do, takes me back to my younger days growing up in the late 60’s and 70’s. When i use to cruise Woodward ave in metro Detroit in my 64 Dodge Polara with my high school buddies.
You two should buy these.

https://autos.yahoo.com/dodge-celebr...203516873.html
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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If i could afford the insurance i would but Michigan has the highest insurance in the country.
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