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And I guess there’s really no limit to how many miles you can get out of a car as long as you keep replacing parts and spending money to rebuild the engine or tranny.
When is it most cost effective to just replace the vehicle ❓
Hardly anyone rebuilds engines anymore, no matter the make. Most mechanics don't want to spend the time on it, so they just swap it for a used one with a warranty.
Engine rebuilding is a specialty shop operation. If that's all they do, they can do it cheaper than a full service shop. If you have engine problems, just buy a rebuilt or short block and install it.
Here is the V8 search of the cars sold nation wide on ebay results with link.
Less Cars but it reflects over all numbers compared to the 6 or 4 cylinder engines.
32 U.S. cars
25 European cars
7 Asian Cars.
Note the 1941 Cadillac this search takes in 79 years.
5 cars over 300,000 Here is the Link to the sales to v8 sedans sold on ebay with over 200,000 miles. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...p2045573.m1684
Cars aren't the ones with V8's.
171 Chevrolets
43 Dodges
137 Fords
Those are going to be trucks and full sized SUVs.
This whole thread is designed to favor vehicles that can't make it when the going gets tough.
In the figures I provided, Chevy and Ford trucks are dominant, not Japanese buzz-bombs.
Even "POS" Dodge beats out "Lasts Forever" Honda.
It's no coincidence that domestic trucks have been the best sellers forever.
They're the real champions if you want something that keeps on truckin'.
And more new engines for random makes/modelsl are added each year by motorreviewer.com. Always full of big surprises and top-secret infos. They're predicting that Toyota is getting worse, not better.
I searched through several pages of Toyota engines, and the #1 biggest issue with Toyota is that their 4-cylinder engine block design does NOT allow you for any easy rebuild at all, unlike most other car brands.
"Toyota doesn't give any chance to rebuild the cylinder block, but it is pretty reliable and long about 200k miles easy."
"The cylinder block is not rebuildable. If it is damaged, you have to replace it with new or used in good condition."
You must throw out your old Toyota into junkyard if engine first goes extinct, if that's what motorreviewer.com is describing by words clearly. Unlike Mazda that can be rebuilt, that's why Toyota sedan engines are only rated up to 200,000 miles lifespan, instead of 300,000 miles lifespan rated for 2020 Ford Fusion S. So, more Toyota vehicles after 20 years old will be sent to junkyard earlier because the engine cannot be rebuild.
Motorreviewer.com claims that the steel/iron liners Toyota puts into their aluminum blocks aren't thick enough to be rebored in a rebuild, hence the statement that they aren't rebuildable. Not sure I agree with that, since reboring is a case by case sort of thing. There's nothing inherently wrong with aluminum blocks, but they do have issues that don't exist with cast iron blocks.
I noticed the Subaru Outback was #2 on that list. I replaced the tranny on my 2000 Outback at 229K miles. It's at 253K now and still going strong....I think it will make it to 300
4 cylinders is actually in one sense more robust than 6 or 8, because that's only 4 cylinders that can fail!
Haha.
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And I guess there’s really no limit to how many miles you can get out of a car as long as you keep replacing parts and spending money to rebuild the engine or tranny.
When is it most cost effective to just replace the vehicle ❓
Not sure but it partly depends on the reliability and longevity (not exactly the same thing) of a vehicle.
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Originally Posted by eaton53
...In the figures I provided, Chevy and Ford trucks are dominant, not Japanese buzz-bombs.
Even "POS" Dodge beats out "Lasts Forever" Honda.
It's no coincidence that domestic trucks have been the best sellers forever.
They're the real champions if you want something that keeps on truckin'.
I read about one fellow's domestic pickup that has 600K miles on it. He had a number of things repaired but I don't think the engine was rebuilt. I need to see if I can find that correspondence.
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Motorreviewer.com claims that the steel/iron liners Toyota puts into their aluminum blocks aren't thick enough to be rebored in a rebuild, hence the statement that they aren't rebuildable...
Now I'm wondering if an engine rebuilder/engine machinist can take out the liners and put new ones in.
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I noticed the Subaru Outback was #2 on that list. I replaced the tranny on my 2000 Outback at 229K miles. It's at 253K now and still going strong....I think it will make it to 300
Motorreviewer.com claims that the steel/iron liners Toyota puts into their aluminum blocks aren't thick enough to be rebored in a rebuild, hence the statement that they aren't rebuildable. Not sure I agree with that, since reboring is a case by case sort of thing. There's nothing inherently wrong with aluminum blocks, but they do have issues that don't exist with cast iron blocks.
Since around 2002 with redesigned Toyota Camry, the AZ 4-cylinder engine series was redesigned completely, but have been written as non-rebuildable. Before that, they were cast-iron blocks and were rebuildable. Toyota is concerned with improving MPG numbers, so they're forced to build new engines more-lighter-weight without sacrificing reliability. Durability has indeed dropped, and now the older Mazda L 4-cylinder engines are doing better than Toyota on durability and easier to rebuild.
Unlike Toyota that redesigns completely from scratch, Mazda L and (later) Skyactiv are evolved from original 1980s F cast-iron engine block. So, Mazda succeeds on long-term durability rather than short-term reliability.
I thought Subaru had head gasket issues, but everything else was pretty good.
I would agree with that.
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They're predicting that Toyota is getting worse, not better.
