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Old 05-22-2020, 05:24 PM
 
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So the guy is out $12
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Old 05-22-2020, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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At least it wasn't a Gremlin or Pacer collection.
I iove Gremlins and Pacers. Especially Pacer wagons.



A Gremlin 401-XR is a badass machine.
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Old 05-22-2020, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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OUCH . . . definitely STINKS.
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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So the guy is out $12
Actually Fieros have quite a following. I had a 85 2M4 and while it was really a meh car it had its own neat factor. I think the later. Odell were getting to be quite something. Imagine if they kept refining it.
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Old 05-24-2020, 10:45 AM
 
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Fiero had a good exterior design but poorly executed engineering for cost cutting. If you’re a fan of the look they could be great resto-mod vehicles by a quality shop. Change the suspension, brakes, engine, and transmission while leaving the exterior original. Just don’t go crazy with engine power. Consider vehicle weight when considering engine power. I wouldn’t go over 200 hp but that’s just me.
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Old 05-24-2020, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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There are several GM engines that bolt to the Fiero 5 speed, Engine swaps are popular. I forget the years but there was a 60 degree V6 Camaro Firebird engine just like the Fiero engine with substantially more liter and the short block interchanges and it even passes Calif. smog.
There are V8 swaps but the clutch is small using the Fiero trans.
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Old 05-25-2020, 06:09 AM
 
Location: western NY
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Fiero had a good exterior design but poorly executed engineering for cost cutting. If you’re a fan of the look they could be great resto-mod vehicles by a quality shop. Change the suspension, brakes, engine, and transmission while leaving the exterior original. Just don’t go crazy with engine power. Consider vehicle weight when considering engine power. I wouldn’t go over 200 hp but that’s just me.
I understand what you're getting at, because IMHO, the car was a victim of GM's philosophy back then. The company had a reputation for introducing a low cost, bare bones model, to test the waters, and then if there was a general acceptance of the car, the "goodies" were added later on.

They did that with the Corvair, the Chevy II (later known as the Nova), and even the Camaro. With all three of those cars, they started out with a basic model, usually powered by a low HP 6 cylinder engine, except for the Chevy II, which could be had with an I4 engine, and later on, in the case of the Nova and Camaro, big V-8s became available, after it looked like the cars were going to be successful. I was actually taken aback, when the Camaro was first introduced, and it's top engine was the new for '67, 350 cu/in version of the small block, in the same year that Ford began to offer their 390 cu/in big block engine.....

I had two friends who owned Fieros. One had an early, I4 powered model, and the other had a late, V-6 powered model. The cars were like night and day. However, by then it was a bit too late, and the early Fiero's shortcomings had eclipsed the later model's improvements.
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:34 AM
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Fiero had a good exterior design but poorly executed engineering for cost cutting. If you’re a fan of the look they could be great resto-mod vehicles by a quality shop. Change the suspension, brakes, engine, and transmission while leaving the exterior original. Just don’t go crazy with engine power. Consider vehicle weight when considering engine power. I wouldn’t go over 200 hp but that’s just me.
Or just buy an MR2.

As for the story, look at the bright side: there's just more knock-off Lamborghini's to be made...
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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The early four cyl. cars were poor cars and got a bad reputation which stuck with Fieros to this day. 86 1/2 and up V6 stick shift models were good looking fun to drive sports cars that went pretty good.
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Old 05-26-2020, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The early four cyl. cars were poor cars and got a bad reputation which stuck with Fieros to this day. 86 1/2 and up V6 stick shift models were good looking fun to drive sports cars that went pretty good.
I test drove that exact car. As I said previously, it was the clunkiest POS I've ever driven. I couldn't wait to get back to the lot. I also couldn't imagine a worse car until I went down to the Dodge dealer and test drove a Shelby Daytona. Ugh. Not a good era for American vehicles unless you were buying a pick up truck.
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