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Old 04-06-2021, 09:25 AM
 
Location: From the Middle East of the USA
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The brand new Kia Carnival has some of the best exterior styling and an attractive, modern, interior. The Toyota Sienna has a hybrid motor that gets great gas mileage, over 30 mpg. The Honda Odyssey leads the class in performance.

However, with seating configurations up to seven passengers, maybe eight, isn't it time for these vans to be classified by another name.


I remember the full-size vans of the 80's. My cousin had a Ford with a personalized paint job. Do you remember the Chevy Astro, the Dodge 2500, these vans had all types of kits and conversions, and shaggy carpeting...
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Minivans seating capacity hasn't changed much since the mid 80s. If the were called minivans then, they are minivans now. I do agree that the line between SUVs and minivans has blurred somewhat. Even then, what defined a minivan was a sliding door.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:57 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Does anyone know if there was ever a mass production van or minivan where it was sliding doors for the front and the back? I imagine the front sliding doors would slide forward towards the hood.
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Old 04-06-2021, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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They are minivans because they are based on a car platform. The OG Caravan was a two box K-Car. The current Sienna started life as a Camry (and is heavily modified).

The Full size van, the Dodge 2500, the Econoline E-250, etc. are based on truck platforms if the names aren't a giveaway. The Dodge 2500 is on a Ram 2500 chassis. The E-250 is a two-box F-250.

The Astro and Aerostars are unique - they were based on the S-10 and Ranger respectively. GM and Ford don't do that anymore: the Transit Connect is based on a Focus and GM doesn't make minivans for the US anymore.
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Old 04-06-2021, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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Does anyone know if there was ever a mass production van or minivan where it was sliding doors for the front and the back? I imagine the front sliding doors would slide forward towards the hood.
There were a couple concept cars that did that, but I don't think there have been any production cars.
Here's a Bertone Ramarro, based on a C4


Renault Scenic concept from 1991. Really not sliders, they were weird hinges that moved the doors forward and backwards:



Some other weird ones that aren't minivans:

Suzuki Alto Slide Slim:


Peugeot 1007:
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Old 04-06-2021, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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They are minivans because they are based on a car platform. The OG Caravan was a two box K-Car. The current Sienna started life as a Camry (and is heavily modified).

The Full size van, the Dodge 2500, the Econoline E-250, etc. are based on truck platforms if the names aren't a giveaway. The Dodge 2500 is on a Ram 2500 chassis. The E-250 is a two-box F-250.

The Astro and Aerostars are unique - they were based on the S-10 and Ranger respectively. GM and Ford don't do that anymore: the Transit Connect is based on a Focus and GM doesn't make minivans for the US anymore.
The older full-size dodge vans were unibody construction so not truly a full-size pickup configuration.
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Old 04-06-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Chrysler started the minivan revolution in fact Ford and GM pulled out of the minivan business because Chrysler was what people wanted to buy, and when Chrysler came out with the stow and go seating that really help them to secure the minivan market back in the day, and Lee Iacocca father of the Mustang was also the father of the minivan.
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Old 04-06-2021, 01:48 PM
 
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Does anyone know if there was ever a mass production van or minivan where it was sliding doors for the front and the back? I imagine the front sliding doors would slide forward towards the hood.
The only vehicle I have ever seen with front sliding doors was a pick-up truck concept from gmc called the terradyne from around the turn of the minimum.

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Old 04-06-2021, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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The brand new Kia Carnival has some of the best exterior styling and an attractive, modern, interior. The Toyota Sienna has a hybrid motor that gets great gas mileage, over 30 mpg. The Honda Odyssey leads the class in performance.

However, with seating configurations up to seven passengers, maybe eight, isn't it time for these vans to be classified by another name.


I remember the full-size vans of the 80's. My cousin had a Ford with a personalized paint job. Do you remember the Chevy Astro, the Dodge 2500, these vans had all types of kits and conversions, and shaggy carpeting...
The Astro was a minivan too. Full size vans, or just “van”, were much bigger, hence the name minivan.

What’s wrong with classifying them as minivans. Full size vans sat between 8-15 passengers.
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Old 04-06-2021, 04:49 PM
 
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Here's my favorite minivan...


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