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Old 04-26-2023, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I'm simply amazed at how many newer white cars lately have sheets of paint falling right off. I've been noticing it for awhile on Hyundai/Kia vehicles, but yesterday I saw a newer Altima (current body style) in a parking lot with a 12" diameter area of missing paint on the hood. What is going on here? White is a very basic color and I can't understand why they can't get it right. I have a 2006 Chevy Express that has the same issue, but you'd think they'd have it figured out by now.
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Old 04-26-2023, 07:10 AM
 
Location: IN>Germany>ND>OH>TX>CA>Currently NoVa and a Vacation Lake House in PA
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It has nothing to do with the color and everything to do with cheap materials and/or improper prep work.
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Old 04-26-2023, 05:20 PM
 
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I know Toyota had this issue esp with certain yr Corolla's and I know some got a free redo from Toyota.
We have a white Prius that I know has been on the list of affected cars. It is a 2011. I wash and wax regularly and so far it has been ok. I know it is a two stage pain and a bit more involved that the other colors. But it has also been more resilient to the freeway rashes that my other cars have.
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Old 04-26-2023, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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It has nothing to do with the color and everything to do with cheap materials and/or improper prep work.
My understanding (what someone that worked in a car plant told me) is that white cars require more paint than other colors, therefore I can see a mfg cheaping out.
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Old 04-26-2023, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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I know Toyota had this issue esp with certain yr Corolla's and I know some got a free redo from Toyota.
We have a white Prius that I know has been on the list of affected cars. It is a 2011. I wash and wax regularly and so far it has been ok. I know it is a two stage pain and a bit more involved that the other colors. But it has also been more resilient to the freeway rashes that my other cars have.
Yeah my mother has a 2012 Highlander in Blizzard Pearl. It also has the paint peeling above the windshield.
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Old 04-29-2023, 06:19 AM
 
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Look at a black Honda product........after 3 years the clearcoat starts to get foggy then it turns white.
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Old 04-29-2023, 06:26 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with the color and everything to do with cheap materials and/or improper prep work.

Without really knowing what the hell I'm talking about, I seem to recall some horrible manufacturer issues with red paints over the years... but not other colors.
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Old 04-29-2023, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Wooster, Ohio
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I'm simply amazed at how many newer white cars lately have sheets of paint falling right off. I've been noticing it for awhile on Hyundai/Kia vehicles, but yesterday I saw a newer Altima (current body style) in a parking lot with a 12" diameter area of missing paint on the hood. What is going on here? White is a very basic color and I can't understand why they can't get it right. I have a 2006 Chevy Express that has the same issue, but you'd think they'd have it figured out by now.
I noticed the same thing, going back to a few decades ago, and involving a number of manufacturers. I never tried to perform a survey, though. I know there was a problem when the manufacturers went to less volatile water-based paints. I don't know whether this affected white vehicles more, or if there were just a lot a white vehicles at the time.
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Old 04-29-2023, 11:27 AM
 
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I noticed the same thing, going back to a few decades ago, and involving a number of manufacturers. I never tried to perform a survey, though. I know there was a problem when the manufacturers went to less volatile water-based paints. I don't know whether this affected white vehicles more, or if there were just a lot a white vehicles at the time.
I believe the newer water based oil change was due to environmental issues. Same with house paint. When I want to buy an oil based paint for our fences from HD, here in CA, it is more difficult and requires some certification.
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Old 04-29-2023, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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I believe the newer water based oil change was due to environmental issues. Same with house paint. When I want to buy an oil based paint for our fences from HD, here in CA, it is more difficult and requires some certification.
Exactly correct.

Water-based paints are ......

junk.

They don't stick as well.

Their colors travel (especially blues.)

Red isn't a prize either. (Unless you like "mauve" in 3 years.)


Yep, thank the EPA and CARB. (Also Cal/EPA.)
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