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Old 12-14-2022, 01:44 AM
 
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Consider rear-wheel-drive cars that weigh less than 3000 pounds.


Mazda MX-5:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MX-5_(ND)


Toyota GR86:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_86

But scroll down to second-generation.


And then an article:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...s-toyota-gr86/


Now the Alfa Romeo 4C, the BMW i3, and the Lotus Elise are discontinued in the U.S. And the older Pontiac Solstice is discontinued. Strangely enough, all four if these cars are notable for chassis construction.


I can help with the MX-5 ND. Find 300/200 springs that lower 1.5" and then 235/40-17 tires on 17 x 8 42mm wheels can go on. But the rear inner fender lip might need to be bent slightly upward
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Old 12-14-2022, 06:52 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Did you mean “Considering rear-wheel-drive cars that weigh less than 3000 pounds”?s
Get the Toyota/Subaru they are capable rear wheel drive cars.
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Old 12-14-2022, 08:18 AM
 
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Consider rear-wheel-drive cars that weigh less than 3000 pounds.


Mazda MX-5:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MX-5_(ND)


Toyota GR86:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_86

But scroll down to second-generation.


And then an article:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...s-toyota-gr86/


Now the Alfa Romeo 4C, the BMW i3, and the Lotus Elise are discontinued in the U.S. And the older Pontiac Solstice is discontinued. Strangely enough, all four if these cars are notable for chassis construction.


I can help with the MX-5 ND. Find 300/200 springs that lower 1.5" and then 235/40-17 tires on 17 x 8 42mm wheels can go on. But the rear inner fender lip might need to be bent slightly upward
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Is there a question in there somewhere?
Also, please explain "all four if these cars are notable for chassis construction". There's nothing particularly special about the chassis construction of any of them.
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Old 12-14-2022, 08:38 AM
 
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The subject is a presentation which is allowed in forums. The reader can consider the cars and the subject.

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Additionally, the Porsche Boxster goes 20 lbs over or more with the PDK transmission. The Porsche Cayman goes 40 lbs over or more with the PDK transmission. The McLaren 570S goes over 3000 pounds when fluids are added to the curb weight.

Well, the MX-5 and the GR86 are also less than $30000 price. The Road & Track article makes the point of being affordable.

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Extra-ordinary chassis construction ?

The previously available Alfa Romeo 4C has a front chassis section of carbon-fiber and a rear chassis section of aluminum framing. The bodywork is SMC, separate from the chassis, and not a unit-body.

The previously available BMW i3 has an aluminum skate chassis with a carbon-fiber unit-body attached. A unit-body is part of the chassis structure but carbon-fiber in this case.

The previously available Lotus Elise has a chassis of bonded rectangular aluminum tubes. The SMC bodywork is separate from the chassis and not a unit-body.

The previously available Pontiac Solstice has a chassis of hydroformed rectangular steel tubes. The entire front bodywork tilts-up over the engine bay and is not a unit-body. The bodywork is steel sheet-metal.

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Old 12-15-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Central Mass
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Also, please explain "all four if these cars are notable for chassis construction". There's nothing particularly special about the chassis construction of any of them.
The Type 111 Elise was a molded fibreglass shell bonded to an extruded aluminum chassis. Awfully crazy in 1996!

Prior Lotuses had a steel wishbone chassis with a fibreglass shell bolted onto. The S1 Europa had the shell bonded onto the steel chassis, but in an accident OR if the 1966 painted steel chassis rusted, you had to cut it out or throw the car away.
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Old 12-15-2022, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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Anyone else baffled?
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Old 12-16-2022, 03:35 AM
 
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[quote=NORTY FLATZ;64602039]Anyone else baffled?[/QUOTE

I am confused
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Old 12-16-2022, 01:28 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Is there a question in there somewhere?
Also, please explain "all four if these cars are notable for chassis construction". There's nothing particularly special about the chassis construction of any of them.
Toyota 86 I believe has a macpherson strut up front and wishbone suspension rear design. The MX-5 is double wishbone. Not sure if that matters to the OP.

I have the Stock Solstice and slightly modified 97 Miata. The Solstice serves as my commuter. I like the Miata's handling better and aftermarket support. I have liked each iteration of the Miata/MX-5 I have driven... all of them to the NC. Wouldn't mind an ND.

With that said, I know a few people who cannot fit into a MX-5 comfortably due to smallish size.
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