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So that is about 2% of annual income - if we extend this to others that would be like a $2000 fine for someone making $100K - very high for a minor speeding incident. Also a guy making that much is not getting biweekly paychecks.
It was the third offensive and it was about 20 mph over. Repeat offense and the degree of it also factor into it. It'll escalate if he does it again.
Note that Finland and other Nordic countries do tend to have compared to the rest of the world including other developed countries and the United States low traffic mortality rates per capita: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate with the rate about 3 to 5 times higher for the US. Note that this is just death, not injuries such as grievous injury.
Per the article "As is common in the Nordic region, fines for traffic infringements in Finland are based on the severity of the offence and the offender’s income, which police can check instantly by connecting via their smartphones to a central taxpayer database."
So any police officer can check a taxpayer database from their phone and know your income? Well there's one reason this could never fly in the US.
Btw, someone said it was about "disposable income" which is far different than gross income. I don't see how any taxpayer database would know your expenses.
So any police officer can check a taxpayer database from their phone and know your income? Well there's one reason this could never fly in the US.
Btw, someone said it was about "disposable income" which is far different than gross income. I don't see how any taxpayer database would know your expenses.
So for what it's worth, I am not advocating for this here, but some people are making comments like they didn't read or understand the article - maybe just kneejerk responding to the title, and I am trying to clarify some basic points.
A multimillionaire businessman has been hit with one of the world’s highest speeding fines – €121,000 (~$129,300) – for driving 30km/h (18.6mph) over the limit in Finland, where tickets are calculated as a percentage of the offender’s income.
Switzerland, which operates a similar income-based system, is believed to have imposed the highest ever traffic fine: Sfr3,600 a day for 300 days, or about €1.1m ($1,777,000) for a Swedish motorist caught driving at 290km/h between Berne and Lausanne.
What do you think of traffic fines calculated as a % of income?
That's an unfair method. Speeding is speeding, regardless of your financial worth. His fine should have been the same as anyone else. One could argue that a normal fine is not penal to a rich person, but the small fine doesn't stop people with lower incomes from speeding either.
How to you fine the millions who live on government welfare and/or work illegally (no declared income, they don't even have a SSN)? And in many cases no driving license nor insurance?
What the frig are you talking about, how is that relevant to the discussion of a traffic fine. There are laws about those crimes - enforce the laws - that was my point - I am not Ok with these actions. I wish these retarded Soros DAs would go away.
Better yet, lets keep this to the topic instead of bringing up irrelevant stuff as "how about's".
What the frig are you talking about, how is that relevant to the discussion of a traffic fine. There are laws about those crimes - enforce the laws - that was my point - I am not Ok with these actions. I wish these retarded Soros DAs would go away.
Better yet, lets keep this to the topic instead of bringing up irrelevant stuff as "how about's".
this idea of increasing the fees for the "rich" it is part of equity = we have different capabilities but must finish the same (which is equal in being poor and no freedom).
We need to come up with something better than a quota of drawings of offending drivers to meet a public revenue goal.
There's no quota? If a traffic cop goes weeks without writing a ticket, I bet they'll damn quick think of a synonym for"quota", and warn the cop that the quota is non-zero.
Just randomly send licensed drivers tickets until the revenue goal is met. Why waste all that money on uniforms and patrol cars? Everybody speeds at times.
It was the third offensive and it was about 20 mph over. Repeat offense and the degree of it also factor into it. It'll escalate if he does it again.
Note that Finland and other Nordic countries do tend to have compared to the rest of the world including other developed countries and the United States low traffic mortality rates per capita: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate with the rate about 3 to 5 times higher for the US. Note that this is just death, not injuries such as grievous injury.
Have you never gone 73 in a 55? It is way too much for a traffic ticket. Also, a fine like this is illegal in the US under the 8th amendment.
Have you never gone 73 in a 55? It is way too much for a traffic ticket. Also, a fine like this is illegal in the US under the 8th amendment.
Not when it's actually an enforced speed limit and certainly not as a third offense after knowing such. I recognize that traffic law enforcement varies quite a bit from place to place. My preference is actually that laws are enforced, but then adjusted if and when they don't make sense so you don't end up with speed limits that make no sense and no one follows. I do find speed limits in the US to be sometimes ridiculous due to poor or oddly selective enforcement, and how the US does things is not necessarily how other places do things nor is it necessarily better. What is evident though is that the US does have a traffic mortality rate several times that of Nordic and many other Western European countries (and likely similar and at a greater magnitude for injuries rather than mortality specifically), and it's reasonable to argue that is a bad thing for the US.
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