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Again, I have to ask... after speaking with 2 of the people we know who work for DELPHI in WNY just yesterday... They seem not only very non-caring about what is happening with the auto bailout (failure) they commented that they are indeed working many hours of OT???
How is that possible? How is it that a company that is bankrupt and being "helped" by another company that is asking for billions of dollars afford to pay their associates what they pay them to begin with and then continue to pay them OT???? What is up with the UAW and why isn't OT being brought to a halt, especially now?
Other companies out there (including my husband's) are bringing an end to it in the economy and they are not on the brinks of failure.
Just not understanding how this happens?
Again, I have to ask... after speaking with 2 of the people we know who work for DELPHI in WNY just yesterday... They seem not only very non-caring about what is happening with the auto bailout (failure) they commented that they are indeed working many hours of OT???
How is that possible? How is it that a company that is bankrupt and being "helped" by another company that is asking for billions of dollars afford to pay their associates what they pay them to begin with and then continue to pay them OT???? What is up with the UAW and why isn't OT being brought to a halt, especially now?
Other companies out there (including my husband's) are bringing an end to it in the economy and they are not on the brinks of failure.
Just not understanding how this happens?
........BENEFITS
For many service/manufacturing companies, it's cheaper to pay their employees time and a half, than to hire a new employee and pay for their benefits.
One question....Is it true that retirees pension pay is equal or more than the salaries of many workers today?
Not likely. Retirement will vary depending upon what contract they hired in under, years of service, position, and sometimes average, highest, or last pay. Accurate numbers are not easily available but indications are the average pension is less than $20,000 a year plus penefits.
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Actual wages paid to UAW workers is actually about $28/hr. I'm not saying they are worth this, i'm just stating a fact.
UAW salaries are just part of the problem. Do you realize how many people retired from GM have now earned more in retirement than they did working for GM? My husband's grandparents both worked for GM (she in the accounting office, he was UAW assembly at the Arlington TX plant) in the 50's and 60's, and both just died within the past 5 years. They had seriously cush benefits and salary for 30+ years. Multiply that by thousands and you have a big chunk of the problem.
What I want to know is, now that GM is threatening to close 20+ plants, are any of those plants in Mexico? Or are they just going to sacrifice their American workers?
You know what they say about the first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole...stop digging.
One question....Is it true that retirees pension pay is equal or more than the salaries of many workers today?
All retiree salaries vary depending when they retired. I know my grandmother gets a few hundred $$ a month from my grandfather's pension. Now my dad is getting a pension from Delphi/GM and i believe he gets $36k gross (this includes a supplement since he doesn't qualify for SS yet), once he his 62 his pension will be slashed and Social Security will make up the difference. When he was working he made between $50k-$60 during good years when there were no temporary layoffs.
Again, I have to ask... after speaking with 2 of the people we know who work for DELPHI in WNY just yesterday... They seem not only very non-caring about what is happening with the auto bailout (failure) they commented that they are indeed working many hours of OT???
How is that possible? How is it that a company that is bankrupt and being "helped" by another company that is asking for billions of dollars afford to pay their associates what they pay them to begin with and then continue to pay them OT???? What is up with the UAW and why isn't OT being brought to a halt, especially now?
Other companies out there (including my husband's) are bringing an end to it in the economy and they are not on the brinks of failure.
Just not understanding how this happens?
I know nothing about OT at Delphi in western New York, but GM is slashing production at all 21 North American plants. Production workers will be off about 30% the first quarter of 2009. No OT for production or skilled trades. (Source: Detroit Free Press)
I was talking to my boss's brother, who works in Detroit and is a UAW member. His job is to safety inspect nuts & bolts. His base pay is $70 + benefits.
Also, if anyone belileves Oberman, you may want to check out a mental hospital. Even including people like Rush... Oberman has more lies and pre-determined stories than any man who has ever been in the media.
I was talking to my boss's brother, who works in Detroit and is a UAW member. His job is to safety inspect nuts & bolts. His base pay is $70 + benefits.
Also, if anyone belileves Oberman, you may want to check out a mental hospital. Even including people like Rush... Oberman has more lies and pre-determined stories than any man who has ever been in the media.
Sorry, Young&Dumb, the production workers DO NOT make $70 hrly plus benefits. The 2007 contract wage scale for production workers is $14.00 hrly no defined pension. The SENIOR production workers make around $28 hrly plus a benefit package. Please make an effort to research your topic BEFORE posting fiction.
I am amazed at the fact that the UAW line employees wage is being question while CEO's and exec's earn millions in salaries plus the cost of perks. The cost of labor per car is 10%. What do you think the management cost is? I tried to get a figure but that seems to be top secret. You must realize that the big guns on top who control the news media and government want the American people to believe that the problem is the bottom rung worker. That's like blaming the last guy in the parade, the one that sweeps up, for a wrong turn. Wake up America that UAW worker on the line never had a say in what kind of car to build, how much to charge, or how much to pay their top exec's. If you want to question a UAW full wage and benefit at $70 then start looking that the NYC bus drivers, iron-workers,
and other union labor. Start questioning doctors costs at $150 per OV for ten minutes. At that rate that doctor is earning $900/hr and isn't limited to a 40 hour week. Now consider foreign manufactures paying their labor $18/hr and charging just a much and a comparable American car. Where does all that extra profit go? Back to Japan, Germany, Korea, etc. and spent in their economy. As long as we build cars using union labor anybody in America has an equal opportunity to work for them. Take it away and where are you going to work?
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