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Do you think in the future the shift to EVs are going to make them more reliable than Gasoline/Diesel vehicles? Since they probably do not have a lot of "wear" items compared to a more complicated ICE with a complicated transmission/emission/fuel systems. Meaning you can just drive them and since there are no oil/tranny fluid changes, spark plugs etc...?
Do you think in the future the shift to EVs are going to make them more reliable than Gasoline/Diesel vehicles? Since they probably do not have a lot of "wear" items compared to a more complicated ICE with a complicated transmission/emission/fuel systems. Meaning you can just drive them and since there are no oil/tranny fluid changes, spark plugs etc...?
Wear and tear parts like tires and brakes are still going to need replacing and a cheap interior or exterior parts/materials will also not last very long...
Plus who knows how the cooling systems and life of the battery cells will last if they are made with cheap parts and EVs may just be a fad and dye out in a decade (Tesla could be the new Hummer brand fad of the mid-00's) or so who knows.
Heck Hydrogen fuel cell cars could be a the new cool niche vehicle of tomorrow much like EV's are today.
You know GM had a EV car back in the 90’s called the EV1 1996–1999 only sold in California but never took off people didn’t buy enough of them. And as far as natural gas vehicles hers a link to tell you about them. https://www.compare.com/auto-insuran...vehicles-guide
So everyone thinks this is GM first rodeo with EV cars but in reality they have been doing it since the 90’s.
You know GM had a EV car back in the 90’s called the EV1 1996–1999 only sold in California but never took off people didn’t buy enough of them. And as far as natural gas vehicles hers a link to tell you about them. https://www.compare.com/auto-insuran...vehicles-guide
So everyone thinks this is GM first rodeo with EV cars but in reality they have been doing it since the 90’s.
GM has been making bad cars nobody wants to buy since long before the 90's.
Lets just assume that EVs will take off in the next decade as battery capacity and life has gone to a new level (just say 300-500 miles per charge and 15 years of battery life cycle). 50% of new auto sales are EVs since the prices have come down and are comparable to ICE autos. I would imagine it would cut into the market of maintenance and service at the dealerships and independent shops where they don't require an oil change, trans service or tune up. Brakes should last longer since you have the regen braking that is like an engine brake. Not to mention there wont be a requirement for a smog check anymore.
You know GM had a EV car back in the 90’s called the EV1 1996–1999 only sold in California but never took off people didn’t buy enough of them.
The 2500 or so EV1's were never sold, only leased, and in several states, not just California. There were many unhappy owners who were forced to turn the car back in rather than be allowed to purchase it. (There are a couple of documentaries about it.) Vast conspiracy theories have been woven around GM's actions, but the bottom line was that the car wasn't ready for prime time and GM was adamant about not having any long-term responsibility for it. There are about 30 disabled ones in museums; the only intact one is in the Smithsonian. The rest were crushed, and GM refuses to allow any of the remaining units to be used on the road.
I would imagine it would cut into the market of maintenance and service at the dealerships and independent shops where they don't require an oil change, trans service or tune up. Brakes should last longer since you have the regen braking that is like an engine brake. Not to mention there wont be a requirement for a smog check anymore.
There will probably be bogus "inspections" required to maintain your warranty coverage.
If they pulled that crap, I'd just buy out of warranty cars.
You know GM had a EV car back in the 90’s called the EV1 1996–1999 only sold in California but never took off people didn’t buy enough of them. And as far as natural gas vehicles hers a link to tell you about them. https://www.compare.com/auto-insuran...vehicles-guide
So everyone thinks this is GM first rodeo with EV cars but in reality they have been doing it since the 90’s.
Not quite. Technically GM wouldn't allow any EV1s to be sold. Like the Nissan Altra, Toyota RAV4 EV (both generations of them), Honda Fit EV, Mini E, and others they were lease-only with no purchase option. Granted the early generation of EVs ran off Ni-MH, had about a 30 mile range, and took about 16hrs to recharge on a standard 110V receptacle...the current generation of EVs have vastly improved.
Well, I think it's logical that EVs will be more reliable because there are far fewer moving parts, serviceable items, pollutants, friction, lubrication, and a much simpler design for peer-review. EVs essentially have a power source (battery), inverter/converter, and a motor (some use AC induction and others use permanent magnet), and a transmission (usually a direct-drive or reduction gear). No need for varying gear ratios before the power curve of an EV motor is virtually constant.
We've had 64K problem-free miles on our Fiat 500e, but I'm pretty sure the rear shocks have lost their dampening abilities. Compare this to my other cars and the EV is infinitely more reliable (though much younger and less tested). My 300K mile old TDI had some leaky fuel injection pump seals, a fuel line leak, and idler pulley bearing seize (after just 20K miles too). My 200K mile old Duramax has had a couple glow plugs fault and our 190K mile old Lexus Rx400h had a leaky radiator end-tank after 100K miles. Never had anything mechanical go wrong...just auxiliary components. I think as more miles are accumulated across all EVs and engineers can study any breakdowns, the industry will improve. So far, it's hands-down more reliable than the Wankel.
The biggest issue is battery degradation. A battery will degrade over time and you can only replace the entire battery. An engine can degrade over time, but you only need to replace the part that degraded at far less cost. In other words it's pretty much a wash.
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