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I know this wasn't in 85 BUT I would pick a Hurst Olds 442 I can't find a decent picture of it but I drooled over that car, & I was a Mustang fan all the way.
Recently saw a Cutlass Supreme of that era. Overall length was about the same as today's FWD midsize sedans. The Cutlass had a longer hood and bigger trunk but the interior space seemed smaller. Today's FWD midsize sedans have more passenger room, more fuel economy, and better acceleration & handling. Those GM clones look fantastic when dressed up compared to today's sedans.
The 80s models had the driving wheels where they belong in the rear.
I know this wasn't in 85 BUT I would pick a Hurst Olds 442 I can't find a decent picture of it but I drooled over that car, & I was a Mustang fan all the way.
I Remember alot of fake G-body 442's and non Aero nose fake Monte Carlo SS back in late 80's Early-Mid 90's they were quite common but usually had the factory decal and a built 350 or 383 stroker SBC swap.
G-bodies were funused cars that had alot going for them in terms of customization ease of modification
I know this wasn't in 85 BUT I would pick a Hurst Olds 442 I can't find a decent picture of it but I drooled over that car, & I was a Mustang fan all the way.
There's no such thing as a "Hurst Olds 442". Two different animals. In the G-Body era, the Hurst/Olds was available in 1983 and 1984, and the 442 was available from 1985-1987.
There's no such thing as a "Hurst Olds 442". Two different animals. In the G-Body era, the Hurst/Olds was available in 1983 and 1984, and the 442 was available from 1985-1987.
They were all beauties. Damn, those Lightning Rod shifters. They were the bomb.
There's no such thing as a "Hurst Olds 442". Two different animals. In the G-Body era, the Hurst/Olds was available in 1983 and 1984, and the 442 was available from 1985-1987.
The 4-4-2 name was revived in 1985[SIZE=2][[/SIZE][SIZE=2]14[/SIZE][SIZE=2]][/SIZE] on the rear-wheel driveG-bodyOldsmobile Cutlass Supreme due to the demise of Oldsmobile and Hurst's official collaboration on the Hurst/Olds but Oldsmobile wanted to continue to offer a performance-oriented Cutlass model to the public. The name was now defined as referring to the car's 4-speed 200r4 automatic transmission, 4-barrel carburetor, and 2 exhausts. This W42 model replaced the 1983 and 1984 Hurst/Olds model and used the same 5.0 L LG8 V8. The shifter was mounted on the floor in a console between the front seats, and the upgraded F41 suspension package was included. 3,000 were produced in the first year, and all were sold quickly. 4,273 were produced for 1986, and 4,208 were made in 1987.
All 1985 and 1986 4-4-2s used the already-sporty Cutlass Salon model as their base platform. Due to cost concerns, for 1987 it was decided they would use the less-expensive Cutlass Supreme model to base the 4-4-2 on. The package included a beefier drivetrain, 15 X 7 fully chromed styled-steel wheels with gold trim, manually inflated air shocks in the rear, special paint scheme (always silver at the bottom) and gold body stripe decal package, dual-snorkel air cleaner with chrome lid, mandatory A/C and door panel 4-4-2 emblems. With few exceptions (vinyl tops, painted pinstripes, chrome outside mirrors and wire wheel covers, for example), 4-4-2s could be ordered with much of the optional equipment found on other Cutlass models.
The 1984 Hurst/Olds and 1985–87 4-4-2 were equipped with an 8.5" GM corporate differential and all were equipped with 3.73:1 ring and pinion final drive gears. Rather than using the weaker 7.5" rear differential found in the Monte Carlo SS, these models used the same stout unit found in the Buick Grand National. Interestingly enough, many 4-4-2s (and G-body Hurst/Olds) did not come with RPO G80 (limited-slip). This was, in large part, due to dealer ordering "packages" that grouped popular options together for ease of ordering. Problem was, G80 was not part of a single one of those popular option packages, but could be added "a la carte." For the most part, performance-savvy dealers and customers were the only ones opting for the limited-slip.
The 1983–84 Hurst/Olds and 1985–87 4-4-2's are distinguishable by there being a "9" as the engine code found in the 8th character of their VIN's. These were the only models to get the hotter VIN 9 307 cubic inch engine, and it was the only engine available. From 1983–1985, this engine was flat-tappet valvetrain, and rated at 180 hp/240 lb•ft torque. In 1986, the 307 engine received a roller-camshaft valvetrain and new swirl-port heads to improve economy and low-end torque. HP dropped to 170, with torque climbing to 255LBS FT. The 1985 4-4-2 used an OZ code THM 200-4R transmission (as did the 1983–84 Hurst/Olds). Both 1986 and 1987 4-4-2 used the KZF code THM 200-4R. The KZF removed much of the shift harshness of the original OZ coded transmissions, but were still firmer than the run-of-the-mill overdrive transmissions used in the rest of Oldsmobile's lineup.
This was my first car, the Olds Cutlass Supreme. 1985. Great car for the 1 year I kept it. Mom and dad passed it down to me. It was a hunk of junk for them, but this was the 3.something liter v-6. Other than the next car I bought, a 1992 Camaro Z28, I've never owned another American auto. Might change that soon.
The 4-4-2 name was revived in 1985[SIZE=2][[/SIZE][SIZE=2]14[/SIZE][SIZE=2]][/SIZE] on the rear-wheel driveG-bodyOldsmobile Cutlass Supreme due to the demise of Oldsmobile and Hurst's official collaboration on the Hurst/Olds but Oldsmobile wanted to continue to offer a performance-oriented Cutlass model to the public. The name was now defined as referring to the car's 4-speed 200r4 automatic transmission, 4-barrel carburetor, and 2 exhausts. This W42 model replaced the 1983 and 1984 Hurst/Olds model and used the same 5.0 L LG8 V8. The shifter was mounted on the floor in a console between the front seats, and the upgraded F41 suspension package was included. 3,000 were produced in the first year, and all were sold quickly. 4,273 were produced for 1986, and 4,208 were made in 1987.
All 1985 and 1986 4-4-2s used the already-sporty Cutlass Salon model as their base platform. Due to cost concerns, for 1987 it was decided they would use the less-expensive Cutlass Supreme model to base the 4-4-2 on. The package included a beefier drivetrain, 15 X 7 fully chromed styled-steel wheels with gold trim, manually inflated air shocks in the rear, special paint scheme (always silver at the bottom) and gold body stripe decal package, dual-snorkel air cleaner with chrome lid, mandatory A/C and door panel 4-4-2 emblems. With few exceptions (vinyl tops, painted pinstripes, chrome outside mirrors and wire wheel covers, for example), 4-4-2s could be ordered with much of the optional equipment found on other Cutlass models.
The 1984 Hurst/Olds and 1985–87 4-4-2 were equipped with an 8.5" GM corporate differential and all were equipped with 3.73:1 ring and pinion final drive gears. Rather than using the weaker 7.5" rear differential found in the Monte Carlo SS, these models used the same stout unit found in the Buick Grand National. Interestingly enough, many 4-4-2s (and G-body Hurst/Olds) did not come with RPO G80 (limited-slip). This was, in large part, due to dealer ordering "packages" that grouped popular options together for ease of ordering. Problem was, G80 was not part of a single one of those popular option packages, but could be added "a la carte." For the most part, performance-savvy dealers and customers were the only ones opting for the limited-slip.
The 1983–84 Hurst/Olds and 1985–87 4-4-2's are distinguishable by there being a "9" as the engine code found in the 8th character of their VIN's. These were the only models to get the hotter VIN 9 307 cubic inch engine, and it was the only engine available. From 1983–1985, this engine was flat-tappet valvetrain, and rated at 180 hp/240 lb•ft torque. In 1986, the 307 engine received a roller-camshaft valvetrain and new swirl-port heads to improve economy and low-end torque. HP dropped to 170, with torque climbing to 255LBS FT. The 1985 4-4-2 used an OZ code THM 200-4R transmission (as did the 1983–84 Hurst/Olds). Both 1986 and 1987 4-4-2 used the KZF code THM 200-4R. The KZF removed much of the shift harshness of the original OZ coded transmissions, but were still firmer than the run-of-the-mill overdrive transmissions used in the rest of Oldsmobile's lineup.
What was the point of posting all that? It reaffirms exactly what I said, the Hurst/Olds was produced in 1983 and 1984 and the 442 from 1985-1987.
You said ( There's no such thing as a "Hurst Olds 442)
There is not. At least not for the years in question. There was a H/O in '83-84 and 442 in '85-87.
I believe the classic muscle cars 442s could be referred to as H/O 442 but am not sure and this is not the case due to the model years under discussion.
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