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Old 06-02-2009, 09:12 PM
 
Location: MI-->TN
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I agree with northbound. 99.9% chance of the trans being fried. Mitch has a good idea of a junkyard trans. Just check fluid condition and get one with a little warranty.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Windstars are notorious for bad transmissions. I agree with the others, it's probably shot.

This might could have been prevented by changing the fluid every 30k miles, but it's too late for that now.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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OK I didn't read all of it, I see northbound already mentioned the famous Windstar tranny problems. They're almost as problematic as the Dodge Intrepid.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Northeast Tennessee
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They're almost as problematic as the Dodge Intrepid.

....and Dodge Caravans and Plymouth Voyagers....
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Well if the transmissions are known to be weak, I'd suggest seeing if there is an updated version available as a rebuilt, rather than a junkyard transmission, figuring the boneyard unit is probably well on it's way to being fried as well.

I'm more used to old-school cars and trucks, in most of these you are out a Saturday afternoon's worth of work to R&R the transmission, beyond that on an old-school manual if you take the side plate off and take a look at the gears, make sure the bearings are not bad, if it shifts into each gear and you can turn it by hand, 99% chance it's fine.

On the other hand some minivans are really miserable outfits to R&R the trans or engine. Ha, an objective reason for us real motorheads to hate them...
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Well I guess Northbound77's words are gospel. Others on this thread have had success replacing their transmission fluid, but he says no. Like it's a huge risk replacing the fluid? Maybe the original poster should take his van to you?
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:14 PM
 
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What northbound stated is true, but changing the fluid is cheap and needs to be done if the old fluid is black, so start with a change. Flushing is worthless, and if new fluid doesn't alleviate the problem, you'll need to think about transmission work.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:25 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What northbound stated is true, but changing the fluid is cheap and needs to be done if the old fluid is black, so start with a change. Flushing is worthless, and if new fluid doesn't alleviate the problem, you'll need to think about transmission work.
If what Northbound stated is true why bother changing the fluid? Basically everyone on this thread said (including you) with the exception of Northbound--change the fluid first.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Well I guess Northbound77's words are gospel. Others on this thread have had success replacing their transmission fluid, but he says no. Like it's a huge risk replacing the fluid? Maybe the original poster should take his van to you?

Changing the fluid slows down the future wear, it won't fix the wear that has already occurred. The fluid should have been changed before it ever got to the point of turning brown (or black).
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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Well I guess Northbound77's words are gospel. Others on this thread have had success replacing their transmission fluid, but he says no. Like it's a huge risk replacing the fluid? Maybe the original poster should take his van to you?
I did not mean to offend.
If the fluid level on the van shows to be full, and the vehicle still doesn't move, there is no point in even changing the fluid.
If the fluid level is low, simply top it off and see if it moves. If that works, then a fluid change with a flush might get a few more miles out of the trans, but probably not much more. With black fluid, however, it almost always needs a trans.
I've been in the auto biz for 12 years, and the transmission specialty side of it for about 9 years. I've seen this hundreds of times.

The goal of a flush is to replace all of the fluid in the trans. By dropping the pan and replacing the filter on this particular unit, you're only changing about 7 quarts, not the full 14 that is in the trans. For example, what is in the torque converter will not come out during a routine service.
It's a rare case when a flush actually fixes anything. The main goal here is to get the trans back on track with a good service schedule, so you don't have to flush it out on every service.
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