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Old 07-01-2009, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Oh my yes, heaven forbid we just teach the youngster the limitations and capabilities of a specific vehicle!

I am so tired of the safety disclaimers and redesigns to stave of litigation!

Lets just take all the fun out of motoring and drive around in slow foam bubbles so that no one ever gets hurt.

The original Mini Cooper was one of the most fun cars I ever drove, and safety regs killed it in the US after '67. It got great mileage, had huge room for such a small car and was and absolute hoot!

"Life without risk is dull"
Rollover accidents have the highest risk of death. The data is very clear. So any buyer can choose how important this is to them. The good news is that information is available on this risk.

I never said not to offer these vehicles. And you are simply ignorant if you don't think there aren't fun cars to drive. We are perhaps in the best time in history for fun to drive cars. More fast cars that are sub 5 secs in 0-60, corner at .9 G, etc.
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:34 AM
 
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This is a ridiculous statement. I didn't say ban these vehicles. Do you have a teenage driver in your family?

Do you think they will drive perfectly even if taught perfectly? You are nuts.

As a parent - you can choose whether to buy a vehicle for your kid that has more or less risk.
Plenty of teen drivers in the family, and none of them are coddled like they are 5 anymore. Best way to make sure a kid drives smart is to make them pay for the car and more importantly their own insurance. They will quickly learn how expensive stupidity and mistakes can be.

Buying kids cars is the best way to make sure they wont care about anything, so yeah, I guess a person in your position should get your kids one of those foam bubbles haha.
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Old 07-02-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Plenty of teen drivers in the family, and none of them are coddled like they are 5 anymore. Best way to make sure a kid drives smart is to make them pay for the car and more importantly their own insurance. They will quickly learn how expensive stupidity and mistakes can be.

Buying kids cars is the best way to make sure they wont care about anything, so yeah, I guess a person in your position should get your kids one of those foam bubbles haha.
True that. Giving a kid a big very "crash safe" vehicle tends to encourage them to drive poorly and take chances, they don't appreciate the vehicle since it was given to them. You are sending the message that you will bail their little butt out regardless of how stupidly they act.

I see this all the time around here.

Making the kid pay for the car, pay for the insurance, and pay for *everything* associated with running it makes them responsible.

We have got a bit off topic though...
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Old 07-02-2009, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Wellsville, Glurt County
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I've always thought the Lumina APV/van resembled an enormous dustbuster.
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Old 10-09-2010, 03:18 PM
 
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Default ey guys check this van

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Old 10-09-2010, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Where can I preorder???

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Old 10-12-2010, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Hialeah
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Luminas have an ok ride. They are not pillowy soft or glass smooth like let's say a Chrysler van. I knew a family who owned a Lumina that they drove all over the US with never a problem. They were not into hauling anything except their own family and the Lumina did its job remarkably well.

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Old 10-12-2010, 09:59 AM
 
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Even though this thread is old I'm surprised no one mentioned why any father would want to buy a "shaggin' wagon" for his daughters to drive around. Chances are they're going to do it in the car anyway, but why make it so easy and comfortable?
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Even though this thread is old I'm surprised no one mentioned why any father would want to buy a "shaggin' wagon" for his daughters to drive around. Chances are they're going to do it in the car anyway, but why make it so easy and comfortable?
Every time I've dropped a girl off at her place and we end up sitting out front and "having a moment" in my S2000, I wonder to myself why it is that I didn't buy a van, or at least an El Camino, with its nice, long bench seat...
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Every time I've dropped a girl off at her place and we end up sitting out front and "having a moment" in my S2000, I wonder to myself why it is that I didn't buy a van, or at least an El Camino, with its nice, long bench seat...
LOL thats why pony/muscle cars come with back seat's cause what else are they good for but helping a 3rd friend get around in a pinch or taking a girl to make out point

the rest of the time the back seats on a mustang & camaro are useless decorations unless you don't like you friends very much.
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