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Old 11-29-2009, 11:02 AM
 
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I have a 2001 Honda Civic with Toyo Spectrum Touring tires that have proved to be cheap crap since I bought them. They screech, they don't hold the road, and they have been wearing badly.

All four tires are bald or nearly bald on the inside edge only (see attached pic). They have supposedly been rotated a couple of times with oil changes and inflated to 32 PSI (admitted not as often as recommended). They have about 25,000 miles on them. My question is if this wear pattern indicates something about the installation/inflation/service or if it's a manufacturing issue -- and ultimately, what do I do about it? Will the tires remain safe? Winter approaches here in southwest Ohio.

Thanks for any help,
N
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: WA
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The unusual wear on the inside edge is probably the result of mis-alignment, not the tires.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:40 AM
 
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Thanks, cdelena. After wikipedialyzing this problem, it looks like a negative camber issue.

What would be the best solution here? Four new tires (professionally installed w/balancing+alignment)? Just an alignment? My non-expert gut feeling is that the tread is insufficient for driving in any amount of snow.

Nevermind. Further wikipedialyzing showed me that correcting the alignment on tires with uneven wear will make it so that all of the load is placed on the unworn parts of the tires... i.e., it can result in insufficient contact with the road. Looks like new sneakers for the Honda.

FYI, got this link from a Wikipedia article:
http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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urther wikipedialyzing showed me that correcting the alignment on tires with uneven wear will make it so that all of the load is placed on the unworn parts of the tires... i.e., it can result in insufficient contact with the road. Looks like new sneakers for the Honda.

FYI, got this link from a Wikipedia article:
Wheel Alignment A Short Course
They will equalize fairly quickly once everything is properly aligned. However they are pretty worn down in general.
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Old 11-29-2009, 07:35 PM
 
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Are they 25k mi tires? They certainly don't look like they've been rotated side to side, are they one-directional tires? That wear looks extreme between bald inside and so much tread on the outside - how deep is the tread on the outside?
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Toyo generally makes good tires. I have experience with both the 800s and Spectrums and I must say Spectrums are bad tires. Replace them before Winter--they are horrible in the snow and will be even worse with the wear on yours.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:14 PM
 
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I have a 2001 Honda Civic with Toyo Spectrum Touring tires that have proved to be cheap crap since I bought them. They screech, they don't hold the road, and they have been wearing badly.

All four tires are bald or nearly bald on the inside edge only (see attached pic). They have supposedly been rotated a couple of times with oil changes and inflated to 32 PSI (admitted not as often as recommended). They have about 25,000 miles on them. My question is if this wear pattern indicates something about the installation/inflation/service or if it's a manufacturing issue -- and ultimately, what do I do about it? Will the tires remain safe? Winter approaches here in southwest Ohio.

Thanks for any help,
N
Your car is out of alignment.

I'm surprised that whoever has been rotating your tires didn't mention that.
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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if i were you, i would look into some sort of lifetime alignment on the vehicle if you plan on keeping it for any decent amount of time. they usually cost 2-3X more than a one-time alignment, but then you can get it checked as often as you like.

with my FWD vehicles, i rotate the tires every other oil change (i change at 5K), then i get the alignment checked after the rotation. overkill? maybe, but i get GREAT tire wear even though i drive my vehicles pretty hard.

also, is this vehicle modified suspension-wise? if you lowered it but then didn't get the alignment adjusted, you would definitely encounter wear like this.

Mike
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Old 11-29-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: un peu près de Chicago
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You need a new set of tires, period.
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Old 11-29-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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If you have this car serviced at a garage or the dealer and they did not warn you about the condition of the tires I strongly recommend finding someone else to do the work on your car.

If they are ignoring/missing this you have to wonder how much attention or care they take with the servicing you can't see.
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