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And to the people who are buying them up as fast as they can build them. "lol"
Yeah, wankers who want the car to do the driving for them.
What happened to the good ol' days when people actually bought a car that they had to learn how to drive? Im just glad that companies like Lotus, Porsche, Caterham, etc, are still building cars that require skill to drive. And I wished Japan would start bringing back their TRUE sports cars... RX-7, Supra, NSX, 300ZX, etc, and NOT these AWD, high-tech, fugly thingamabobs.
From who? People who somehow think the GT-R has pedigree like a 911 does? Get real!!! Seriously. Get real.
No one made this statement (maybe it was the imaginary voices in your head?) The same GT-R will rip the 911 a new one on a track. Although both Nissan and Porsche have a great mount of racing pedigree, it doesn't mean squat to me when it comes to choosing between the two cars. I'll take whats faster for my money thank you.
Seriously dude, don't you have enough egg on your face yet? Time to move on.
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Originally Posted by Steve-o
From who? People who somehow think the GT-R has pedigree like a 911 does? Get real!!! Seriously. Get real.
Well there's a small problem with this clever little rejoinder: it's a response to an argument that nobody has made.
You claimed the GT-R has no pedigree or desirability. A cursory bit of research into the extensive racing history of the Skyline and GT-R shows you're wrong on the former count, and the sales success of the current GT-R shows you're wrong on the latter. But rather than bring yourself to acknowledge that you were wrong, you kept moving the goalposts until finally you resort to beating down phantom arguments.
So at this point, you have three options: 1) be big enough to admit you were wrong; 2) simply bow out of the thread altogether with the microscopic shred of dignity you have left, or 3) continue to let your chronic case of last-word-ism dig you a deeper and deeper hole. I have my suspicions about which option you'll choose.
From who? People who somehow think the GT-R has pedigree like a 911 does? Get real!!! Seriously. Get real.
Who said that? Only idiotic statement I've heard so far, is that the GT-R doesn't have a racing pedigree, which is what you said, along with some other overly generalized idiotic statements. Also, for the last 5-6 posts or so it was Audi (the entire company) vs. GT-R, now it's the 911?
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Originally Posted by Steve-o
Yeah, wankers who want the car to do the driving for them.
What happened to the good ol' days when people actually bought a car that they had to learn how to drive? Im just glad that companies like Lotus, Porsche, Caterham, etc, are still building cars that require skill to drive.
It takes just as much skill to drive the GT-R on the limit, as driving the 911 on the limit, the GT-R is just easier for people who aren't racers to drive fast.
As for your idiotic statement about for example Porsche, here's the list of electronic driving aids on the 997:
PTV
PDK
ABS
ASR
ADB
MSR Porsche Active Suspension Management
PSM
And that's just the ones I found doing a quick google search.
The 911 Turbo is also a mere 140kg lighter than the GT-R, which according to you, if your opinion of the GT-Rs racing pedigree is anything to go by, isn't even worth mentioning.
So at this point, you have three options: 1) be big enough to admit you were wrong; 2) simply bow out of the thread altogether with the microscopic shred of dignity you have left, or 3) continue to let your chronic case of last-word-ism dig you a deeper and deeper hole.
1. Im not wrong about the Nissan's racing pedigree. Sure it has won some races here and there, in select small racing series. I really dont see whats so impressive about that. Heck, the Ford Escort also has a pretty long and successful racing pedigree.
2. Hmmm... Your #2 option sounds like a good case of your #3 option.
1. Im not wrong about the Nissan's racing pedigree. Sure it has won some races here and there, in select small racing series. I really dont see whats so impressive about that. Heck, the Ford Escort also has a pretty long and successful racing pedigree.
2. Hmmm... Your #2 option sounds like a good case of your #3 option.
Look up the Skylines and Nissans full racing pedigree, calling it a race here and there is... well I suppose the idiocy that's expected to come from you, but it's wrong.
As for the Escort, the mark I and II are great cars, and shouldn't be looked down on.
Look up the Skylines and Nissans full racing pedigree, calling it a race here and there is... well I suppose the idiocy that's expected to come from you, but it's wrong.
As for the Escort, the mark I and II are great cars, and shouldn't be looked down on.
As an avid race fan, Im well aware of Nissan's racing heritage. Nissan just hasnt been overly successful compared to other marques.
And yes, the MK1 and MKII Escorts were very strong competitors, even up to the WRC Cosworth variants. Im surprised we agree on something. And Im even more surprised that you actually know what the MK1 and MKII Escorts are! Not many people this side of the pond have a clue.
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And Im even more surprised that you actually know what the MK1 and MKII Escorts are! Not many people this side of the pond have a clue.
