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Old 02-19-2010, 02:24 AM
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Steve_TN View Post
I have been think the same thing for a number of years now, but they just seem to keep sticking around.
It seems like it's reached the point where they just sell Lancers here while they keep a couple other models on the lot as decoration.
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:41 AM
Location: Baltimore
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Is the V6 any good? Or is that engine also crap?
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sailordave View Post
Doesn't the EPA use the interior passenger volume to decide if a vehicle is subcompact, compact, midsize, or large? If this is true, then the size of the extior is meaningless in regard to it's classification. Though my mom and dad drove a Chrysler Cordoba, it's interior passenger space was actually much smaller when compared to it's exterior size. I have just about as much rear leg room or more in my 2003 Malibu than in that Cordoba. The late 70s and early 80s GM models like the Monte Carlo were also large in exterior size but small in interior size.
Yup, class size is determined by a government body, not sure its the EPA though. The guidelines go by interior volumes.
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Old 05-06-2016, 02:37 PM
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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Originally Posted by 12GO View Post
The funny thing is that even Ford called the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis a mid size car up until a couple years ago. The Crown Vic was considered for years the replacement of the Gran Torino/LTD II lines. In 2006, Ford still in advertising called the Crown Vic /Grand Marquis the safest mid sized cars.
Cars have not evolved, just the mindset of what a car is size wise has been deluted.

So I stand by my statements about the size of cars today being called larger than they really are. Todays accord, camery, galants, all are compacts, not mid size.
please provide a link for this

we called them "Full Size" back when I sold em
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Old 05-06-2016, 04:11 PM
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We owned consecutively:
- 84 Expo LRV
- 84 Eclipse
- 96 Galant
- 97 or 98 Eclipse

All were stellar cars. Not really much of what is here considered a performance, but, 84 Eclipse we sold for $1600, not starting, with about 260 000 miles on it; LRV dies on us, was likely easy fix, no start, at right past 300 000 miles and I took her all over the country; Galant was totaled at 186 000 miles and had zero issues; last Eclipse we bought with 80 000 miles and sold with 160 000 on it, only alternator replaced.
Buddy had Dodge Colt, which was a Mitsu, that he'd tow a semi with. He seriously could not kill that Colt.
Another buddy had LeBaron with Mitsu V6, that was hell of a car.
I'd call anyone who'd tell me that they are unreliable cars. Heck no. Oil takers, yes, but that's about it.
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