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Old 03-24-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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Anybody else notice the sudden trend by the major automakers to put all electric car models on the road in this decade?

Ford Bringing All-Electric Car in 2011 - KickingTires

Nissan LEAF Electric Car | Home | Nissan USA Official Site


Report: Toyota Commits to Launching All-Electric Car in 2010 - All Cars Electric

2011 Volt | Electric Car | Chevrolet.com

Chrysler’s Shocking Promise: An EV by 2010 | Autopia | Wired.com

They are making extreme efforts to keep these vehicles affordable too, at around 25K-ish more or less.



It would be easy to write it all off as just a trendy move by the auto industry, but then Toyota said this:


YouTube - Toyota's Jim Lentz Predicts Peak Oil by 2020

So it all suggests the auto industry fully expects gasoline to be too expensive to be practical as a fuel source in the very near future (only 10 years or so ) and are planning accordingly.

As of right now with current technology, the only semi practical alternative would be electric cars, but they come with severe limitations.

What do you think? Is this really gonna be our future?
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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hydrogen

Honda FCX Clarity - Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle - Official Web Site
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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Even IF hydrogen is comming, it's a lot further away than 10 years before we can buy one.

Hydrogen Car Goes Down Like the Hindenburg: DoE Kills the Program | 80beats | Discover Magazine
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:13 PM
 
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All that means is that we will be driving Japanese hydrogen cars instead of American. Kinda like the Prius vs..... nothing.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:20 PM
 
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I thnik teh biggest practical and lowest cost effects is in commerical and govenramnt natrual gas powered vehicles. The cost of most others will be higher and frankly not really mean much in our lifetime because of ifnrastructure cost.At mionr levels battery powered urban vehciel will suit some but batteries have their associate dcost and hazards in both use and disposal.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:29 PM
 
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All that means is that we will be driving Japanese hydrogen cars instead of American. Kinda like the Prius vs..... nothing.
I still don't see any Japanese (or any other foreign) companies comming even close to a viable hydrogen car. We may get them but not before gas is too expensive to be practical for anyone but the very rich.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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I thnik teh biggest practical and lowest cost effects is in commerical and govenramnt natrual gas powered vehicles. The cost of most others will be higher and frankly not really mean much in our lifetime because of ifnrastructure cost.At mionr levels battery powered urban vehciel will suit some but batteries have their associate dcost and hazards in both use and disposal.
True, but if we blow all our natural gas resources on transportation, what are we gonna use to keep ourselves warm in the winter? I really don't want to get up in the middle of the night to shovel coal into the boiler...


...but then again, since when have Americans ever planned for the future?
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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Lord knows, electric cars in it's current incarnation is nothing to shout hallelujah over, and even if they extend the range, make the batteries cheaper, lighter and safer, there's still the issue where this really only moves from one problematic energy source to the next.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:52 PM
 
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We are much more than 10 years ago from a real Hydrogen vehicle. Sure, a running hydrogen is possible soon but one that can take an accident without exploding ...not so much.
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Old 03-24-2010, 01:55 PM
 
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the thing about electric cars is they don't have the infrastructure in place think about how many gas stations we have all over the place to fill up they would need to build thousands of fast charge stations all over the country to even make it viable and even then if you run out of juice on the side of the road you can't bring 5 gallons of electricity in a container to charge your car to get you to a charge station you have to have it towed.
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