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Here's a wrapped GTR: GALLERY>> MATTE BLACK R35 GT-R - Speedhunters (http://speedhunters.com/archive/2008/06/17/gallery-gt-gt-flat-black-r35-gt-r.aspx - broken link)
It even protects from rock chips!
Yeah, the GT-R is like an aged porn star. Performance is incredible but the looks....not so much. jk ;-)
(Actually, it looks a TON better wrapped. I'd wrap mine if I had one.)
The first thing I thought when I saw that wrapped BMW was that he'd have to pull all that off when his lease ended and he had to return the vehicle.
I can see buying a scuffed older bmw and wrapping it though.
A professional wrap like that costs about $3500.00, not $120.00. Just FYI.
Did anyone not know this? Or do you just enjoy repeating facts that have been prior stated? The $120 is what was paid for materials when the owner of the BMW did the labor himself.
Gonna get a brickbat for this, as I like many many cars and BMWs are just a few, but..
I think it looks pretty hot. I'm willing to be the guy did a pretty good job, only someone who really loves their car would have the patience to sit there and do it themselves..
I'm sorta curious how long it took him to cut around the badging and insignia though?
Did anyone not know this? Or do you just enjoy repeating facts that have been prior stated? The $120 is what was paid for materials when the owner of the BMW did the labor himself.
If someone knows the vehicle isn't carrying its factory paint, anyone who knows anything about proper vehicle values will understand that it is now worth less. The only time you will possibly get more for a modified vehicle is if an enthusiast is buying it, and believes that the modifications on the vehicle are worth more to them than they are to the market (which is rare but happens).
I've never lost money customizing a car, and I've owned over a hundred cars in the last 30 years. The ONLY cars I've lost money on were factory stock.
If someone comes to look at my custom car for sale and they say, "well, it's worth less than stock, so I'll only give you X much money for it." I say, if you want a stock one, there are plenty out there. You came to look at THIS one because you wanted THESE customizations, but didn't want to pay for them. Either buy one of the thousands of stock ones on the market and pay for the customizing you want, or pay what I'm asking for this one already done." Yes, customizing the car reduces the number of peopel that will want to own it. But unlike a manufacturer, you don't have to sell the car to thousands of people, you only have to sell it to one person. And if the car is tasteful and stylish, it's easy to find that one person (even moreso now with the internet, as you don't have to rely on drive-bys)
If, say custom wheels don't add value, then is it ok to go up to someone selling a car with custom wheels and simply take them off the car? I mean, you're doing him a favor by increasing the value of the car, right? Or is that theft?
I've never lost money customizing a car, and I've owned over a hundred cars in the last 30 years. The ONLY cars I've lost money on were factory stock.
If someone comes to look at my custom car for sale and they say, "well, it's worth less than stock, so I'll only give you X much money for it." I say, if you want a stock one, there are plenty out there. You came to look at THIS one because you wanted THESE customizations, but didn't want to pay for them. Either buy one of the thousands of stock ones on the market and pay for the customizing you want, or pay what I'm asking for this one already done." Yes, customizing the car reduces the number of peopel that will want to own it. But unlike a manufacturer, you don't have to sell the car to thousands of people, you only have to sell it to one person. And if the car is tasteful and stylish, it's easy to find that one person (even moreso now with the internet, as you don't have to rely on drive-bys)
If, say custom wheels don't add value, then is it ok to go up to someone selling a car with custom wheels and simply take them off the car? I mean, you're doing him a favor by increasing the value of the car, right? Or is that theft?
I'm not saying that a modified vehicle will always result in a reduced resale but it certainly reduces the value for a vast majority of your potential buyers. It has happened that an individual wanted something bad enough that they are willing to pay premium for a modified vehicle, but this is a rare case in the grand scheme of things.
I"ll ignore the wheel example because I think we can both agree that its stupid.
I'm not saying that a modified vehicle will always result in a reduced resale but it certainly reduces the value for a vast majority of your potential buyers. It has happened that an individual wanted something bad enough that they are willing to pay premium for a modified vehicle, but this is a rare case in the grand scheme of things.
If they are looking for a stock vehicle, they they aren't my potential buyers, anymore than if I am selling a Range Rover, that people wanting a Miata are my potential buyers. If they don't want a modified car, they should ONLY be looking at stock examples. If they are looking at a modified car, then they WANT the modifications that are done (and would normally pay to have those modifications done if they were to buy a stock example).
If I want a new Prius, then a new BMW 7 series has zero actual value to me. But you can't sit there and say that it has less value, period. if I want a new 7 series BMW in black then a white one has zero value to me, but I can't say, "well, I don't want that color so sell it to me for nothing, as you've reduced the value to potential black 7 series buyers."
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I"ll ignore the wheel example because I think we can both agree that its stupid.
No, it's not. It's exactly the point. If you go look at a modded car, especially one with bolt-on mods like wheels or intake or stereo, etc, and you try to tell the seller that the car is worth less than stock due to those mods, then you're in essense trying to steal those mods. If there are stock examples to be had, and you want to buy THAT example, then you want THOSE mods. If you don't want those mods, don't waste that seller's time. Buy one of the stock ones around. The point is you want that car, and you want those mods and you want to take money from the seller just as if you came up and took those parts without paying for them. It's time that peopel realized that that's exactly what is going on.
The ONLY time it's not is if the car is VERY rare, is NOT available anywhere else at any price, so that the modded one is your ONLY choice. At that level of rarity, then the mods will most likely reduce the collector value (especially if they would be very hard to undo), unless they are extremely well done by a high end coachbuilder/customizer, as we've seen with a few high end street rod builders.
Now, I'm not talking the mods should be priced at full retail, but should be depreciated like the rest of the car.
I think the point trying to be made here, Merc63, is that you can't expect any worth while increase in selling price because of the mods, the car won't be worth less than original, but not much more either (of course depending very much on what's done, but I've seen $10.000 Öhlins suspension go for 1/10th of the new part price).
As far as wheels go, I've seen many a time, and inquired into having modified wheels removed before sale, because they've been gaudy or otherwise not to my liking, whereas the rest of the car's been fine.
In this particular case the point is simply that you alienate a very large group of buyers by painting your car matte black. If you just cover it with vinyl, you have the option of both reaching out to anyone who want that special paint job, but also anyone looking for a stock vehicle. Essentially keeping a foot in both markets.
It's more about saleability than price, but those who spray their car matte black and expect to get $3k more for it due to the paint job, might often times be in for a shock.
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