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Very interesting graph. Thanks for sharing! I see a tiny slice of Russia and Kazakhstan are included.
Only 19 countries in the world individually have more than 1% of the population of the world. So small rural sections cut off or added in don't affect the conclusion very much.
1,384,688,986 China 1
1,296,834,042 India 2
262,787,403 Indonesia 3
159,453,001 Bangladesh 4
126,168,156 Japan 5
105,893,381 Philippines 6
97,040,334 Vietnam 7
....
329,256,465 UnitedStates 8
208,846,892 Brazil 9
207,862,518 Pakistan 10
195,300,343 Nigeria 11
142,122,776 Russia 12
125,959,205 Mexico 13
108,386,391 Ethiopia 14
99,413,317 Egypt 15
85,281,024 Congo(Kinshasa) 16
83,024,745 Iran 17
81,257,239 Turkey 18
80,457,737 Germany 19
The critical comment is that the circle includes MORE THAN HALF of the world's population. It does not include EXACTLY HALF of the world's population.
But a circle of radius 2200 nmi, is 15.2 million square nautical miles and the Earth's surface area (including oceans) is about 149 million square nautical miles.
For the Boeing New Midsize Aircraft, is looking at two-class configuration to be between 220 seats (5200 nmi range) and 270 seats (4400 nmi range). Some analysts feel that given the high density of people in this part of the world, Boeing would be better off designing a plane at 4000 nmi maximum so that the engines perform better at more frequent flights of ranges of 2000 nmi.
I think Boeing is reluctant to do that because the A321LR has an advertised range of 4000 nmi with a 2 class seating of around 206 seats. If the NMA has only 14 more seats, more cargo space, it is almost certain to be much more expensive and weigh a lot more. Airlines will be reluctant to spend more money on a plane with only modestly better high level specs.
In the 21st century a large portion of the world's new planes must operate from/to the airports inside this circle.
This conclusion assumes that the percentage of the overall population that travels by airliner is consistent across the world. I would disagree with that assumption. Just because over half the world population lives in that circle doesn't necessarily mean over half of the people who will fly on an airline are within that circle.
This conclusion assumes that the percentage of the overall population that travels by airliner is consistent across the world. I would disagree with that assumption. Just because over half the world population lives in that circle doesn't necessarily mean over half of the people who will fly on an airline are within that circle.
I think that it is obvious that all the world does not live the same. That's why there are only 1.2 billion automobiles in the world, and 7.5 billion people. But given the huge percentage of people in this area, inevitably they are all going to want transportation
If we look at the large capacity twin liners (compare these six models)
Maximum Passenger Seating Capacity of 440 seats
A330-300 @ $264.1 million European and American certification on 21 October 1993
A330-neo @ $296.4 million
A350-900 @ $317.4 million and
A350-1000 @ $366.5 million
B787-10 @ $325.8 million
B777-8 @ $394.9 million
As the most affordable of jets in with this capacity, a large proportion sales in the Asia-Pacific market
Airbus has taken over 18,000 orders for jets in their history divided in the following categories. BASELINE
26.7% Asia- Pacific
22.8% Leasing Firms (could be operated anywhere)
19.5% Europe
12.4% North America
6.0% Middle East
6.6% Latin America
3.4% UNDISCLOSED
1.4% Africa
1.2% Government, Executive Private
Airbus has taken over 200 orders for A330neo jets in the last few years divided in the following categories.
38.3% Asia- Pacific
28.5% Leasing
4.7% Europe
11.7% North America
14.0% Middle East
1.9% UNDISCLOSED
0.0% Latin America
0.9% Africa
0.0% Government, Executive Private
Airbus has taken over 780 orders for A330-300 jets divided in the following categories.
46.3% Asia- Pacific
21.5% Leasing
17.0% Europe
6.1% North America
4.7% Middle East
2.7% UNDISCLOSED
0.0% Latin America
1.7% Africa
0.0% Government, Executive Private
This conclusion assumes that the percentage of the overall population that travels by airliner is consistent across the world. I would disagree with that assumption. Just because over half the world population lives in that circle doesn't necessarily mean over half of the people who will fly on an airline are within that circle.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Alot of poverty and/or citizens living under a restrictive government in that circle.
You took the words right out of my mouth. A lot of poverty and/or citizens living under a restrictive government in that circle.
I think it is obvious where the majority of the wealth of the world lies. Just given that the circle has roughly 5 times the population of Europe, you are not going to sell 5 times as many jets. But just given the sheer number of people certain models of jets are going to be more popular in Asia Pacific than they are in wealthier regions like Europe.
Just looking at percentage of orders for different Airbus models shows a larger percentage of orders for newer models in Asia over Europe and North America.
Boeing has to put the needs and desires of their Asian customers as priority number one for the specs for their NMA. There was a time that Airbus could design a model like the A310 which met the needs and desires of European customers, but was not popular elsewhere.
Boeing designed the new generation of B777X almost entirely around the desires of their Middle East customers who are responsible over 70% of the orders (as of this time).
But I don't think you will ever see that again. Every model designed by Boeing or Airbus will first and foremost meet the desires of the Asian carriers. Right now a big sticking point is the Asian carriers want far more cargo space for the NMA than the North American or European airlines.
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Excerpts from this article discuss the "cargo conundrum" as to how much cargo space should be built into Boeing's NMA. It is not practical to built two variants for little or more cargo, so you have to design to where the most planes will sell.
Quote:
Boeing faces a "cargo conundrum," for the jetliner dubbed the 797 by industry observers, said Domhnal Slattery, founder and chief executive officer of Avolon Holdings Ltd., the world's third-largest aircraft leasing firm.
Major US carriers and their counterparts across the Pacific have very different views on how much baggage and freight the airliners should haul — specifically, the Asian companies want to carry more, Slattery said. The disagreement potentially calls into question the distinctive oval-shaped fuselage that Boeing is planning for the 797, which suggests a leaner cargo mission.
"Typically in the states, it's bags plus five tons of cargo," he said. "The Asians want bags plus 10 tonnes for this aircraft. So who do you build it for?"
For Boeing, "This raises a very interesting strategic question: where is the biggest market for this airplane over a 25 year period? Unquestionably, it's Asia," Slattery said.
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