Daughter want to move North of Patterson Park-safe? (Baltimore, Overlea: best neighborhood, violent crime)

[ilovetosurf]

Your daughter should live in Mt Vernon, there are relatively inexpensive places to live. A townhouse is charming but arguable less safe than a larger building. If she works p/t in Mt. V and is going to law school in that area her plan does not make a lot of sense.

Does she have a car? I guess if she finds a place with secure parking and drives to and from the school it would work.

If she thinks she is going to be walking around late at night she ought to be close to her school.
She should call the law school housing office and ask their advice on where to look and where to live.
She would do well to find a fellow night student!
Good luck to both of you.

[ToneGrail]

Originally Posted by nycistheplace2

There have been 3 homicides within a 1 block radius from orleans street on the east side. Its not in transition to me. I was just in Baltimore 4 days ago and everyone was still there, same poverty, same crime, same people.
It might be changing but for a presumably white female she will be a target.

Yeah but those murders were north of Fayette. I know...too close for comfort. I'm not disagreeing with you that it is definitely dangerous for a single female to be living that close to the action.

My point is that there is quite a difference between the north side of Fayette and the south side of it, racially and economically. Jonj can probably attest to this since he lives there.

[nycistheplace2]

Originally Posted by ToneGrail

Yeah but those murders were north of Fayette. I know...too close for comfort. I'm not disagreeing with you that it is definitely dangerous for a single female to be living that close to the action.

My point is that there is quite a difference between the north side of Fayette and the south side of it, racially and economically. Jonj can probably attest to this since he lives there.

But it kinda sucks that you cant travel one block up the street for fear of something happening.

[ToneGrail]

Originally Posted by nycistheplace2

But it kinda sucks that you cant travel one block up the street for fear of something happening.

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[Billiam]

Originally Posted by ToneGrail

Welcome to Bodymore!

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[nurider2002]

All of these posts debating the safety of Baltimore neighborhoods are the same. If you are comfortable in an urban setting where violent crime is pervasive a few blocks away but, where your blocks are solidly working/middle class with community organization, go for it. If on the other hand, the idea that crime could "spill over" into your safely zone, e.g., a stray bullet, a criminal "passing through" on his/her way back to the wrong side of whatever boundary is the perceived line of demarcation, then opt out and move to an area with statistically considerably less crime overall. Nobody can make the choice for you. Some folks love city life and accept the violent crime rate as the price of living where they want. Others don't find the advantages outweight the disadvantages, it's a personal choice. Bottom line, there are not many areas of the city where you can continue in the same direction for very long before you cross a "boundary". That is simply the reality of Baltimore City.

[barante]

nurider2002 tells like it is.

[uclabruins]

She should check out canton and fells point...those are further south and a bit safer to me. I think the best bet is to life as close to school as possible but in a safe area. Mt vernon is great.

[nycistheplace2]

Originally Posted by nurider2002

All of these posts debating the safety of Baltimore neighborhoods are the same. If you are comfortable in an urban setting where violent crime is pervasive a few blocks away but, where your blocks are solidly working/middle class with community organization, go for it. If on the other hand, the idea that crime could "spill over" into your safely zone, e.g., a stray bullet, a criminal "passing through" on his/her way back to the wrong side of whatever boundary is the perceived line of demarcation, then opt out and move to an area with statistically considerably less crime overall. Nobody can make the choice for you. Some folks love city life and accept the violent crime rate as the price of living where they want. Others don't find the advantages outweight the disadvantages, it's a personal choice. Bottom line, there are not many areas of the city where you can continue in the same direction for very long before you cross a "boundary". That is simply the reality of Baltimore City.

That's body-more,murderland for you.
A criminal could easily be on his way through that area.
Look on street view on one block north of Patterson Park. It would look normal and middle/working class. Then look 3 blocks north you'll see Vacant buildings and run down row-houses plus everything else that comes with a bad neighborhood.

[summerake23]

Hello, I noticed that these threads were a couple of years old and wanted to see if opinions of the area are still the same. I have an opportunity to move into a row house a few blocks north-east of Patterson Park - I'd like to know if it is a relatively safe place for two 24 year old females, and if anyone is aware of the current crime trends. Any information you may have would be very helpful!