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Old 01-10-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Finally had a chance to walk through there on Sunday to take some pictures for a grad school project. It's an almost surreal setting especially when set against Stirling St. The people hanging around were friendly and open to talk about the decline of the area. Could this area get redeveloped?
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Sure it could. I think step one would be to develop the massive parking lot adjacent to it.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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Apparently the City and this architect have a "Vision".
Marks, Thomas Architects | Portfolio (http://www.marks-thomas.com/portfolio.cfm?projectID=45&subcatid=6&catid=5 - broken link)

The problem with most of the parts of East Baltimore close to 83, is there is so many old Public Housing complexes. I know they just tore one down close to Old Town, but there is plenty more in that area. So any investor would have to consider it's surrounding area before dumping millions into something. Privately owned homes can be bought out, public housing is a whole different beaurocracy.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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I did find it interesting that the city currently owns all of Old Town Mall on the SW side of the development. On the NE side there are a few active businesses but much of it is privately owned.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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The area around Dunbar's Football Field is a mess. Latrobe Homes and that ugly white tower. I think all of East Baltimore is a Wild Card because Hopkins is the most important Company in this state, and I know the City and State want the area around it to be as nice as possible. I think you'll definitely see these areas improved and re-invented.... hopefully sooner than later!

Somewhat in the same area, I think you'll see a lot of shopping go in at the Washington Hill Overlook project that is going to start soon, and that surrounding area.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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why would you want it redeveloped its part of baltimores history. Its the first mall black were allowed to go to in the city. I think it should stay but be remodeled and have use for the community. There are no current plans to tear it down by the way. If you redevelop it all your doing is driving up the housing prices in the surrounding area and forcing the current residents in the area to relocate which is trrible because many have been living there for years. Old town shpuld stay a baltimore land mark. A piece of history.
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Old 01-11-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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I think it should stay but be remodeled and have use for the community.
That IS redevelopment. You've kinda just defined the term. And yes, it does increase property values of the area, that is a good thing.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:40 AM
 
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The Public Housing around Old Town Mall is the albatross. It is time to end Public Housing as we know it. It is a failed social experiment.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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Stirling St makes for an interesting comparison. The Orleans St part of OTM is owned by the city.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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The Public Housing around Old Town Mall is the albatross. It is time to end Public Housing as we know it. It is a failed social experiment.

I can agree that public housing, as we know it, has failed.

The reality is poor people need options or society will be adding to the homeless situation.

Do you have any suggestions as to other options for low income and the elderly that have been living in that area for decades?
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