Baltimore No. 3 in surge of suburban poverty (Essex, Woodlawn: section 8, real estate)

[barante]

Suburban Poverty Surges: See The 11 Areas Hit The Hardest (PHOTOS)

[Dbatiste]

Could it be that the poor are moving to the suburbs or are the people in the suburbs becoming poorer?

[mrboltonman]

Looks like the poor are moving to the suburbs from the city.

Poverty growing faster in suburbs - baltimoresun.com

[SmokeyLisa]

With the closing of public housing complexes you had a migration of the poor from the city to the burbs. Also, with the rules on section 8 housing rights you will see this trend continue. From an education point of view, there are probably a lot of advantages to moving to the burbs. It is all a cycle, because eventually the people in the burbs will want to escape the poor & inevitable crime and will move somewhere else, perhaps the city or the exburbs.

[bmorefella]

Results of Gentrification, lower income families are being pushed out of the city! I'm just wondering what the original posters motives are with this article?

[dogpark]

Barante is just commenting, not advocating. If you follow any of his posts, he's just looking for enlightened discussion, no agenda, no axe to grind. he commented a lot on Antero Pietilla's Not In My Neighborhood about race and real estate transaction in Baltimore thru time - an interesting read for sure.

And so here is another one born of a graduate research project by a UMBC student Thomas Vincino, now a professor looking at similar suburban decline issues: Transforming Race and Class in Suburbia; Decline in Metropolitan Baltimore.

Common knowledge states that many rust belt/inner cities began their decline after the end of WW2 as new freeways opened up areas for development and FHA/GI Bill loans encouraged families to spread out form the old neighborhood. The the riots of 1968 sped that up, helped by blockbusting just prior. But now the first tier suburbs are beginning the decline the inner cities went thru. And so it is a trend to observe, maybe with a better udnerstanding from what has happened before.

[Woodlands]

That is really interesting. Many lower income city residents are moving out of the city to the "greener grass" in the suburbs. If it means a better life for them.. then God Bless them. Dont want to get into a City vs County thing.. but unconcentrating the poor from Baltimore City and spreading them throughout the regions is probably a good thing right? That way they can live in better communities and no one jurisdiction is having a concentration of lower income residents.

Of course yes I know.. with the good people there are the bad people....so I expect to read...the flames....about......."now crime will go up and Essex, Lochearn, Woodlawn, Lansdowne, Glen Bernie et al will become slums" stuff but nonetheless its an interesting trend.

[dogpark]

In this recent Sun article David Simon: Homicide cop battles for life once more - Baltimore Sun, David Simon says:
When Cassidy came on the job there were 100,000 residents in the district, and blocks upon blocks of occupied rowhouses. The streets were full, the corners teeming. Back then, the vacants were the oddity. Now, a quarter-century down the road, the Western has 40,000 souls and long stretches of boarded-up derelicts, if not empty brownfield lots.

So the Western District is down 60% population wise from the late 1980s, 20+ years ago.

For grins, I used google maps to look up addressed from Simon's The Corner, and three of the main settings were gone, empty lots. So those folks have to be going somewhere out of the city.

[EdwardA]

Section 8 vouchers are portable.

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by bmorefella

Results of Gentrification, lower income families are being pushed out of the city! I'm just wondering what the original posters motives are with this article?

Is it truley the result of gentrificaiton? The majority of baltimore is not gentrified and I thought the areas these lower income people were moving from was places like Broadway east, Harlem Park, etc, which aren't gentrified. If gentrification were the reason, what motive do they have to move out of the city, where i assume (in the suburbs, the) homes are more expensive.