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Old 01-30-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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I don't understand what you are saying here.
That the administrators and the buildings and even the teachers can't do the job by themselves.
They NEED the families and the children who have left to round out the school experience.

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My guess would be that the families with the best and most motivated students are the people who...
...the public school system needs to serve and direct ALL policies and approaches to appease and support.

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the kids remaining in traditional City public schools are...
...are by themselves and even with what family they have... the least able to do for themselves.
But even there the issue is not about wealth. It's entirely about socialization (or lack of).

If a body of neighborhood kids is to leave the building they shouldn't be from the involved and interested families...
the ones with the best and most motivated students. Remove the other ones.
Or... continue to exacerbate the inevitable flight of those tax payers.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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That the administrators and the buildings and even the teachers can't do the job by themselves.
They NEED the families and the children who have left to round out the school experience.

...the public school system needs to serve and direct ALL policies and approaches to appease and support.

...are by themselves and even with what family they have... the least able to do for themselves.
But even there the issue is not about wealth. It's entirely about socialization (or lack of).

If a body of neighborhood kids is to leave the building they shouldn't be from the involved and interested families...
the ones with the best and most motivated students. Remove the other ones.
Or... continue to exacerbate the inevitable flight of those tax payers.
Never going to happen here. Discipline is dead, only test scores matter. There is very little individual accountability in today's Baltimore City Public Schools for students or their guardians. Charter, private or move to a good school district are the only options.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:15 AM
rfp
 
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Default Why does Baltimore get treated like the "red-headed stepchild"

Maybe because of articles like this:

Popping Wheelies in Charm City - Slide Show - NYTimes.com

Why would anyone want to visit Baltimore? I am a native, but I've paid my last visit there. It's a getto town, like Detroit, Gary, & Camden.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:15 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Maybe because of articles like this:

Popping Wheelies in Charm City - Slide Show - NYTimes.com

Why would anyone want to visit Baltimore? I am a native, but I've paid my last visit there. It's a getto town, like Detroit, Gary, & Camden.
Haha it is far from Detroit, Gary, or Camden.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:32 PM
rfp
 
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Haha it is far from Detroit, Gary, or Camden.
Ha ha ha, Why would a tourist want to come to Baltimore after seeing these photos in the New York Times? Ha ha ha.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Ha ha ha, Why would a tourist want to come to Baltimore after seeing these photos in the New York Times? Ha ha ha.

Well, tourists have been coming to Baltimore for a long time, many of them enjoying their visits. I guess the answer to your question would be that most people would know that one set of photos does not summarize a place. Also, New Yorkers are tough. They know cities have rough spots.
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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I have a lot of family and friends from New York. They always have a good time when they visit Baltimore.

Why would anyone want to visit Baltimore after reading that NYT article? I have to admit, those thugs are aggravating. Try playing tennis in otherwise beautiful Druid Hill Park on the weekends when they ride through thinking they own the place.

Then again, why would anyone want to visit Baltimore after watching the Today Show during their Super Bowl special episode showing the best parts of the city?

Baltimore does have more ghetto than the other major East Coast cities except maybe Philly. With DC expanding so rapidly though, Baltimore is reaping some of the benefits. It just feels like it's 10 years behind DC and Philly, and 20 years behind Boston and Brooklyn.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:30 PM
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It's a hundred years behind Boston, several hundred years behind San Francisco.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:38 AM
 
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in the right situation baltimore is great...guilford and roland park are some of the best neighborhoods/housing stock in the country for their price (though prop taxes are killer).

Mount Vernon is good too.

Access to BWI, which is easy and not a stressful airport.

My friends say i have 'snobby' tastes but i lived in baltimore for two years and i enjoyed the city (hated what i was doing there, but really liked the town).
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Old 02-11-2013, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Cheswolde
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Default Comparison points

I am reading Charlie Duff's autopsy on his hometown, Detroit. Baltimore has a long way to go yet.
Detroit: An American Autopsy: Charlie LeDuff: 9781594205347: Amazon.com: Books
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