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Old 08-21-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry, NC
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The names of the two victims in the train derailment have been released in the papers. It's a tragedy, and I feel deep sympathy for the families of these two pretty young women. However, I hope parents will warn their kids that there's a good reason to stay off train tracks.

In Maryland train deaths, more questions than answers - The Washington Post
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:42 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Just terrible.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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it is terrible, but they weren't on the train tracks and in no way contributed to the train derailing.

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Jim Southworth, lead investigator for the National Transportation Safety Board, said a review of the train’s data recorder confirmed statements given by the crew members to police — that they had not applied the brakes on the train.

The crew members also told police that they never saw the two women sitting on the bridge beside the tracks, Southworth said. The fact that they were not in the path of the train and that the engineers neither saw them nor applied the locomotive’s brakes suggests they were innocent victims.

Southworth said that a broken line in the air brakes apparently triggered automatic braking in each of the 80 coal cars, but he said it was unclear whether that caused the derailment or whether a flaw in the track was a factor.
As Ellicott City train derailment probe continues, clues indicate coal killed women - The Washington Post
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:25 AM
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it is terrible, but they weren't on the train tracks and in no way contributed to the train derailing.
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Police said investigators located the bodies of the teens “seated on the edge of a bridge over Main Street.”

From Two Young Women Dead in Ellicott City Train Derailment - Owings Mills-Reisterstown, MD Patch, 3rd paragraph.
But I don't think they contributed to the derailment in any way.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:09 PM
 
Location: California / Maryland / Cape May
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it is terrible, but they weren't on the train tracks and in no way contributed to the train derailing.
That is incorrect based on the Huffington Post article. They even tweeted photos of themselves on the train tracks (the bridge portion of the tracks). While those photos have been removed from Twitter, apparently someone reposted them here.

In any case, time will tell what happened when the investigation is done. What a tragedy.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: NYC
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They weren't on the train tracks meaning the rails or ties ... but they were sitting on the bridge (CSX property). The coal fell on them.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:11 PM
 
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But I don't think they contributed to the derailment in any way.
yes, just as i said. they weren't on the tracks, contrary to what the OP stated.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:13 PM
 
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That is incorrect based on the Huffington Post article.
no it isn't.

from your link:

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sitting on a railroad bridge
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Sneads Ferry, NC
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Uggabugga - Thanks for the diagram. I wasn't clear on where the cars fell off. I certainly didn't mean to imply the girls caused the derailment.
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Old 08-23-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: California / Maryland / Cape May
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They weren't on the train tracks meaning the rails or ties ... but they were sitting on the bridge (CSX property). The coal fell on them.
Correct. They weren't on the rails or ties (to our knowledge, as of this time), however, I do consider that narrow bridge to be part of the train tracks considering the boards they were sitting on were part of the tracks that the rails and ties are attached to. If the rails and ties weren't attached to boards (the boards the girls were sitting on), the rails and ties would be levitating.
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