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Old 02-05-2015, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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2) Honestly, I don't think we've used our waterfront well in many areas. The ritz developments near fed hill harborside, and the low-rise condos along Canton are all examples of relatively low density development with little commercial value compared with high density residential, or high value commercial (say retail for example) property. Harbor East (and the new Harbor 2.0) are I think better examples of what we could do with our waterfront. Or look to say Sydney Australia with its beautiful opera house, or even Chicago stateside with Navy Pier. We aren't ready to go toe to toe with world cities like those, but for sure we could do better than we have.
One thing Baltimore does well is its waterfront there's still room for improvement yes but its one of the best in America and is world class. Most cities around the world including Sydney was inspired by our harbor revitalization in the 70s-80s.
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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How is Baltimore considered "world class"? By what quantifiable standards are you measuring this by?
Did you mean to say unruly class by mistake?!!


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One thing Baltimore does well is its waterfront there's still room for improvement yes but its one of the best in America and is world class. Most cities around the world including Sydney was inspired by our harbor revitalization in the 70s-80s.
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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*Mental Health should be included in your list!


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What's the Long term plan for Baltimore City.

1. Crime
2. Poverty
3. Facilities and Infrastructure
4. Zone Planning
5. Environmental Planning

Is there some sort of "Master Plan" or 10-year plan, 20-year plan where people sit down and provide public documents on how they will manage the future of the city?
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:42 AM
 
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How is Baltimore considered "world class"? By what quantifiable standards are you measuring this by?
Did you mean to say unruly class by mistake?!!
**** IH77 you don't know what your talking about. I did not say Baltimore as a whole was world class I said its waterfront. Read!

I thought you were quitting CD and yet we're still waiting for you to fall off the face of the planet.
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:05 AM
 
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*So, Baltimore has a world class waterfront!?? That is nothing new! It was world class when enslaved Africans were brought here and shipped further south to different slave holding regions. The city can have a world class waterfront, but not be considered world class itself?!! Where is the logic in that?



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**** IH77 you don't know what your talking about. I did not say Baltimore as a whole was world class I said its waterfront. Read!

I thought you were quitting CD and yet we're still waiting for you to fall off the face of the planet.
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:45 AM
 
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I don't think waterfront properties or the better management of them should be a primary concern. This may make Baltimore a little more attractive, but this is not going to improve the city for the long term. We are talking about properties that are going to be $$$, and just simply attracting a higher class of people. What about the rest of the city? We should model cities that do not have a waterfront that are successful.

Bring back the Vacant for Values program with the house cost of $1. Oberdein (spelling) is a beautiful restored neighborhood that was created through this program, and now its real estate is as expensive as Bolton Hill. We need to continue building up the mainland, like Patterson Park, Res Hill, Park Heights, Gwyns, ect... Give housing more attractive price tags, three times the price to live in Bmore terms (A white neighborhood) is not giving young processionals a chance to settle here.

IMO, Baltimore is on the rise via the article I posted. Why? Because its more affordable than other East Coast Cities, but way to expensive for the condition of the city. East Coast cities were sparred "white flight" and unfortunately, Baltimore got hit and hit hard. Businesses, tax payers and the condition of neighborhood all left to the county. We need more diversity, so people do not come to the city and see it as one big ghetto. Lets make practical changes and not minor changes to the 1%.
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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*So, Baltimore has a world class waterfront!?? That is nothing new! It was world class when enslaved Africans were brought here and shipped further south to different slave holding regions. The city can have a world class waterfront, but not be considered world class itself?!! Where is the logic in that?
There is no logic in that or anything you just said. Point is world class, it will be better if we can develop and maintain the rest of the city in the same manner.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:32 PM
 
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I don't think waterfront properties or the better management of them should be a primary concern. This may make Baltimore a little more attractive, but this is not going to improve the city for the long term. We are talking about properties that are going to be $$$, and just simply attracting a higher class of people. What about the rest of the city? We should model cities that do not have a waterfront that are successful.

Bring back the Vacant for Values program with the house cost of $1. Oberdein (spelling) is a beautiful restored neighborhood that was created through this program, and now its real estate is as expensive as Bolton Hill. We need to continue building up the mainland, like Patterson Park, Res Hill, Park Heights, Gwyns, ect... Give housing more attractive price tags, three times the price to live in Bmore terms (A white neighborhood) is not giving young processionals a chance to settle here.

IMO, Baltimore is on the rise via the article I posted. Why? Because its more affordable than other East Coast Cities, but way to expensive for the condition of the city. East Coast cities were sparred "white flight" and unfortunately, Baltimore got hit and hit hard. Businesses, tax payers and the condition of neighborhood all left to the county. We need more diversity, so people do not come to the city and see it as one big ghetto. Lets make practical changes and not minor changes to the 1%.
I agree.
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Old 02-06-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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I don't think waterfront properties or the better management of them should be a primary concern. This may make Baltimore a little more attractive, but this is not going to improve the city for the long term. We are talking about properties that are going to be $$$, and just simply attracting a higher class of people. What about the rest of the city? We should model cities that do not have a waterfront that are successful.

Bring back the Vacant for Values program with the house cost of $1. Oberdein (spelling) is a beautiful restored neighborhood that was created through this program, and now its real estate is as expensive as Bolton Hill. We need to continue building up the mainland, like Patterson Park, Res Hill, Park Heights, Gwyns, ect... Give housing more attractive price tags, three times the price to live in Bmore terms (A white neighborhood) is not giving young processionals a chance to settle here.

IMO, Baltimore is on the rise via the article I posted. Why? Because its more affordable than other East Coast Cities, but way to expensive for the condition of the city. East Coast cities were sparred "white flight" and unfortunately, Baltimore got hit and hit hard. Businesses, tax payers and the condition of neighborhood all left to the county. We need more diversity, so people do not come to the city and see it as one big ghetto. Lets make practical changes and not minor changes to the 1%.

This is where the City's Leadership has failed.. Its way more "sexy" and expedient to cut a deal with a developer and get a new highrise or waterfront development built.. not to mention the perks to your campaign from the developer.. than to tackle some of the hard issues like Park Heights or West Baltimore redevelopment. Especially, if you want to do one or two terms and move on to the next higher office or high paying consultant gig. Its funny to watch politicos at these ribbon cuttings smiling and make speeches like they actually had to get in there and roll up their sleeves to get the deal done.. The reality is the developer crunched the numbers, found out how much $$$ they could make, presented it to the City and the City approved it.. end of story.. No sleeve rolling required....though maybe some palm geasing...

We have said it before, Baltimore needs a Mayor who wants to be Mayor of Baltimore and wants to leave a positive mark on the City. A Mayor that is prepared to be in it for the long haul and make the tough choices and decisions that yield improved neighborhoods beyond the Gold Coast and the half dozen usual suspects that appear in everyones top five or on postcards of Baltimore. Is the redevelopment of Park Heights et al going to be easy? Helllll No!!!!!...Is it worth it? I would like to think so...It is impossible.. Well.. the impossiblity grows with every year of inaction.......
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Old 02-06-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Is therapy in your long term plan steppenthrax?
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