1,200 City Workers Make Over $100K (Baltimore: city hall, lawyers, houses)

[Calvert Hall '62]

Originally Posted by steppinthrax

The sad thing is you guys think 100K is a ****load of money. Down where I'm at 100K is minimum wage. I'm over that and a few of my friends are at triple that level!!!!

In general 100K don't mean ****. It just means you have enough to survive!!! You can buy a decent house, a decent car, a decent vacation (noticed I used the word decent).

It's nothing extravagant!!!

Yeah, cupcake, city workers are underpaid.

[pwduvall]

Originally Posted by steppinthrax

The sad thing is you guys think 100K is a ****load of money. Down where I'm at 100K is minimum wage. I'm over that and a few of my friends are at triple that level!!!!

In general 100K don't mean ****. It just means you have enough to survive!!! You can buy a decent house, a decent car, a decent vacation (noticed I used the word decent).

It's nothing extravagant!!!

Yes, but as we keep saying, you don't live in the Baltimore Area. As a city resident with a good education and lots of job skills who works a lot of unpaid overtime hours (plus a part time job) and earns less than $50,000, I can tell you Baltimore isn't the land of inflated federal salaries.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining! I know that lots of people here have it a whole lot worse. A lot of people I know work there butts off for a little more than minimum wage in jobs with totally random hours (so there employers can keep them from getting other work.) I hate to think where I would be without my white privilege - a day laborer?

[steppinthrax]

Originally Posted by pwduvall

Yes, but as we keep saying, you don't live in the Baltimore Area. As a city resident with a good education and lots of job skills who works a lot of unpaid overtime hours (plus a part time job) and earns less than $50,000, I can tell you Baltimore isn't the land of inflated federal salaries.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining! I know that lots of people here have it a whole lot worse. A lot of people I know work there butts off for a little more than minimum wage in jobs with totally random hours (so there employers can keep them from getting other work.) I hate to think where I would be without my white privilege - a day laborer?

I'm from the school of, if you don't like your situations get the **** off your ass and do something about it. I used to live in Baltimore working for the State Gov making around 60 - 70K. I left baltimore for DC (high salaries).

Also salaries aren't inflated. You're talking about cleared and degreed professionals (Top Secret/Secret with B.S, MS, Certifications). Their salaries reflect the commercial value of those individuals.

[steppinthrax]

Originally Posted by dogpark

This city needs audits - its the closest it will get to a political and bureaucratic enema.

What you may not understand is that most of those that are earning that kind of salary can make a **** ton in private sector.

Also some of these salaries are pretty low.

Example....

CEO Gregory Thornton. He earns $290,000.

He's a C-class executive. At a minimum they are taking 3 to 4 times that salary. Not including high end company benefits (free medical, bonus, expense account). The amount of value and business experience they bring to the table demands those type of salaries (something you would never understand or exp in your lifetime)!

Example, in terms of the federal government there is a branch of salary off the GS scale SES (Senior Executive Service). They start at 145 and end somewhere around 200K. These individuals many times quite and make more in private.

[steppinthrax]

Originally Posted by Infinite_heights77

70k or 150k, I want a competent physician so to speak. There is no elected official in Baltimore that is worth any substantive amount of money in my humble opinion. Ahhhhh, maybe 1 or 2, but that's it. Politicos are expendable and exhaustible, they are like cockroaches.

I don't think a physician is in any way political. They are not going to be involved in the issues(like many) lower end city employees. They are just there for the job and looking to get paid.

[pwduvall]

Originally Posted by steppinthrax

I'm from the school of, if you don't like your situations get the **** off your ass and do something about it. I used to live in Baltimore working for the State Gov making around 60 - 70K. I left baltimore for DC (high salaries).

Also salaries aren't inflated. You're talking about cleared and degreed professionals (Top Secret/Secret with B.S, MS, Certifications). Their salaries reflect the commercial value of those individuals.

I have no complaints about the salary. I grew up in the Washington area and also worked there for a while after college. I couldn't stand the place.

[BMoreJuice]

There is a big misconception that government employees are all lazy. As a new hire, I worked very hard and came from nothing to get here. It's not their problem that the government is not hiring enough people. I bet half of them are doing the jobs of two people. The only concern is fraud, as it should be checked.

[Infinite_heights77]

Fat, lazy, incompetent, uneducated and some straight up and down stupid.

Originally Posted by BMoreJuice

There is a big misconception that government employees are all lazy. As a new hire, I worked very hard and came from nothing to get here. It's not their problem that the government is not hiring enough people. I bet half of them are doing the jobs of two people. The only concern is fraud, as it should be checked.

[steppinthrax]

Originally Posted by BMoreJuice

There is a big misconception that government employees are all lazy. As a new hire, I worked very hard and came from nothing to get here. It's not their problem that the government is not hiring enough people. I bet half of them are doing the jobs of two people. The only concern is fraud, as it should be checked.

It's not a misconception, it's a conception!!!

I worked for city and state gov while I was in college. You wouldn't believe the amount of laziness I've seen. At one place I worked the staff pretty much had Netflix running on their computers watching movies for most of the day. They were even in offices where their backs were facing the door, you would see the movie as you walked across their office.

Some work hard, but for the most part it's very easy to get away with everything when working in both fed/state gov.

[dogpark]

Originally Posted by steppinthrax

What you may not understand is that most of those that are earning that kind of salary can make a **** ton in private sector.

Also some of these salaries are pretty low.

Example....

CEO Gregory Thornton. He earns $290,000.

He's a C-class executive. At a minimum they are taking 3 to 4 times that salary. Not including high end company benefits (free medical, bonus, expense account). The amount of value and business experience they bring to the table demands those type of salaries (something you would never understand or exp in your lifetime)!

Example, in terms of the federal government there is a branch of salary off the GS scale SES (Senior Executive Service). They start at 145 and end somewhere around 200K. These individuals many times quite and make more in private.

CEO Thorton isn't worth anywhere near $290K. IF he can get more elsewhere, I say see ya!

I know many folks in city gov, at SSA and they all complain about dead weight in the work place (not the defence folks tho, they seem content).

And Baltimore desperately needs audits - the city is a sieve.