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Old 08-30-2020, 01:25 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Yeah, that's why Harris has half the state.......
I thought you said that land doesn't vote.
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:28 PM
 
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Old 08-30-2020, 01:32 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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You said, or maybe implied, that Andy Harris represented half the State.
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Old 08-30-2020, 05:25 PM
 
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You have to remember the purpose, plainly stated by Governors Glendenning, O'Malley and the State Senate President Thomas V. "Mike" Miller, which was to totally eliminate any Republican Congressmen coming from Maryland.
Didn't do a great job considering Harris is sitting at R+14. The other 7 districts combine for a D+114, so you'd think Dems could have done a half-decent job of rigging and pretty easily grabbed all 8 seats. I guess projecting a few elections out is a bit tough, but still.
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Old 08-30-2020, 05:45 PM
 
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Maybe. But the ad did what ads are supposed to-got your attention.

Yes but not in a good way .
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Old 08-30-2020, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Didn't do a great job considering Harris is sitting at R+14. The other 7 districts combine for a D+114, so you'd think Dems could have done a half-decent job of rigging and pretty easily grabbed all 8 seats. I guess projecting a few elections out is a bit tough, but still.
Oh gosh......what was her name.....Donna Edwards I think had something to do with the final decision. I recall two different proposals. One, which was pretty close to the map we see today, packed as many GOP folks into the 1st district as possible, thus making sure the other 7 went blue.

The other created the possibility for an 8-0 split, but some combination of Edwards complaints, the fear that the 6th wasn't securely enough blue, and and even worse looking map than we currently have, prevented it. Maybe NBP remembers more about the specifics and how Edwards was involved.

Frederick County's continual march from red to purple to blue (sooner than you might think) will likely give the Dems another shot in 2020. The 6th doesn't need that much of Montgomery County to stay safely Democrat. D +6 is an underestimation, IMO, of the reality on the ground. The GOP has performed poorly in the 6th, save the super low turnout 2014 cycle.
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Old 08-30-2020, 07:06 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Oh gosh......what was her name.....Donna Edwards I think had something to do with the final decision. I recall two different proposals. One, which was pretty close to the map we see today, packed as many GOP folks into the 1st district as possible, thus making sure the other 7 went blue.

The other created the possibility for an 8-0 split, but some combination of Edwards complaints, the fear that the 6th wasn't securely enough blue, and and even worse looking map than we currently have, prevented it. Maybe NBP remembers more about the specifics and how Edwards was involved.

Frederick County's continual march from red to purple to blue (sooner than you might think) will likely give the Dems another shot in 2020. The 6th doesn't need that much of Montgomery County to stay safely Democrat. D +6 is an underestimation, IMO, of the reality on the ground. The GOP has performed poorly in the 6th, save the super low turnout 2014 cycle.
Edwards was involved because, since she didn't play well with others, her district was redrawn in such a way that she thought, with reason, that she would be challenged and defeated in the primary.

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Old 08-30-2020, 07:17 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Didn't do a great job considering Harris is sitting at R+14. The other 7 districts combine for a D+114, so you'd think Dems could have done a half-decent job of rigging and pretty easily grabbed all 8 seats. I guess projecting a few elections out is a bit tough, but still.
They could have drawn it in such a way that that district could have been Democratic but that map would have put another Congressman, I think either Ruppersberger or Sarbanes, at risk. Also remember that district did elect a Democrat in 2008 when Gilchrist was knocked out in the primary by Harris.

Before Gilchrist was elected Roy Dyson (D) from St. Mary's was the Congressman (that was when SoMD was in the district with the Eastern Shore). He had some, let's call them personal issues, which led to his defeat by Gilchrist.

Dyson was elected in 1980 when the previous Congressman, Republican Robert Bauman, was arrested for soliciting sex from a sixteen year male prostitute (I think it might have been at the Iwo Jima Memorial).

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Don't ask me how I remember this ****, I just do.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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Apparently, Trump tweeted something favorable about Klacik, and Republicans are complaining that he doesn't tweet about people who have a real chance of winning.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:23 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Apparently, Trump tweeted something favorable about Klacik, and Republicans are complaining that he doesn't tweet about people who have a real chance of winning.
Are they, or is that just more imaginings?

Bottom line on this is that Republicans are accused of not being inclusive and then, when a minority candidate appears as a Republican, that candidate is pilloried by Democrats as a token.

It happens in state after state across the US.
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