"Anti-Violence Activist" Shot Dead While Attacking Woman With Butcher Knife

[SC-Cobra]

Originally Posted by feck

The mental health system failed Tyree Moorehead.
Were he getting the mental health treatment he
so obviously needed, it is my belief that he would
still be alive today.

That's hard to say IMO. Mental health usually is just giving them psychotropic meds at the end of their fancy sitdown talk about their problems; b/c that's what really works to control their crazy but also makes them an addict. I know dudes that can easily run wild like this one day should they miss their meds by accident or on purpose...they usually end up in jail for something stupid (like starting fights, running naked in in downtown DC, etc.) & were just lucky they didn't have a butcher knife nearby to get shot like this. I don't know of a good solution.

[personone]

Originally Posted by SC-Cobra

Pretty true, but also it was excessive fear + adrenaline dump. Again, the dude was gonna die already after taking the 3rd shot. I know that they shoot to incapacitate due to the knife, but everything after the 6th shot when he was rolling away from the woman, is just a bad look (is all I'm saying). The cure for this IMO, is that Cops need to train more with full contact fighting => MMA (esp. grappling/BJJ) w/weapons.

The Cops I train with from SE DC, have been shot at, partners hit, partner killed, etc.; will probably not unload like this b/c they've had a ton of street fighting & trained fighting. The experience of controlled violence at an MMA gym, translates into being a lot calmer in such situations.

Completely agree and one thing I have never understood (even though I'm obviously not a cop, so I understand that their perspective may be different). But since you've trained some, I'm glad you have come to the same conclusion.

When I hear police offers fired 16 rounds and killed suspect, I just don't get it. One or two shots (maybe 3 shots at the most) would completely immobilize even the biggest suspect. Maybe if there was someone on certain drugs it would take more, but in the vast majority of the cases where this happens, the excessive shooting seem uneccessary.

In the Philando Castille incident, he was bleeding out in the passenger seat of the car, after the cop unloaded multiple shots at him, and the officer still pointed his gun at him while he was sprawled out and bleeding out for over a minute. Sometimes it just seems to go way beyond what it needs to.